Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[Nightbringer]

Possible, but tell me if you take one look at the things I cited, especially this interesting logic, and come to the conclusion that Beskar has a common towns goal as his top priority. He seems like he has ulterior motives.

I'm not just going off your logic, I know you don't think Beskar has a pro town role, but I do, basically, I am not convinced by your arguments.

Who should be a great source of information. I'm not seeing any proactive contributions. You are also just examining my case separately, its all interconnected. The "powerful" star wolf team eh? Didn't Beskar just tell Choxorn that the greater numbers in his team from the start was because they had not much special abilities?

Beskar, an investigator, is about a good of a source as we can get. I know it is interconnected, but I am not convinced by you so I see your case as either simply incorrect or an attempt to frame Beskar. I went with frame because of the lurking thing. I know Beskar claimed to be less powerful, but with Star Fox gone he certainly ahs power as an investigator.
And why is my contribution less proactive than yours?

Damned if I do, damned if I don't. If I didn't take a stance on this contentious issue, people would say I'm simply trying to incite trouble without committing to it and staining my name with the rest should I be wrong. If I take a stand on the matter, people say that I'm too self certain.

I'm making an accusation, and what me taking a stand means, is that I'm held responsible for it should I be wrong. Naturally, people are wrong a lot in mafia, but do you honestly expect people to just play a mafia game by lazing around and letting the power roles tell people what to do? Not bothering to make their own decisions and choices and all that? I doubt so.

No I don't I am just doing the same as you, making an argument based on what I believe about the game, if I am wrong, I should suffer the consequences.

[Death is yonder]

I'm not just going off your logic, I know you don't think Beskar has a pro town role, but I do, basically, I am not convinced by your arguments.

And I'm not faulting you based on that.

Beskar, an investigator, is about a good of a source as we can get. I know it is interconnected, but I am not convinced by you so I see your case as either simply incorrect or an attempt to frame Beskar. I went with frame because of the lurking thing. I know Beskar claimed to be less powerful, but with Star Fox gone he certainly ahs power as an investigator.
And why is my contribution less proactive than yours?

I was referring to how Beskar should be using this information more proactively.

Frame Beskar? He lied about Beefy, using the situation to discredit the Star Fox team. He threatens to cut off flow of information too. Am I not entitled to question the contradictions that exist?

Also, I haven't been lurking. The only round where I lacked any significant contributions to the thread was the last round.

No I don't I am just doing the same as you, making an argument based on what I believe about the game, if I am wrong, I should suffer the consequences.

Precisely.

[Secura]

He lied about Beefy, using the situation to discredit the Star Fox team.

This is actually false; Beskar didn't have any idea about Beefy's role beyond suspicions, and it was the input of Falco/Romanic (as a dead, proven townie) that reinforced his opinion.

The outcome of the situation discredits Star Fox without anyone even having to say anything, so if you're looking for a scapegoat for Beefy's death, you're looking at the wrong person.

[naut]

Death is yonder.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Really, guys?

Really.

Really?

.......Okay. writeup commencing. This one is going to be EPIC.

[wideyedwanderer]

In some ways yes, I am a venomian so of course I am supporting a neutral victory. And I don't think the town should sit back, but actively take part in hunting down the mafia alongside Star Wolf. It is indeed possible that some rivalry existed, and Star Wolf benefited from Fox's demise, but with Fox already dead I think we can rest assured Star Wolf is going to want Andross dead, which is everyone's primary goal (except the mafia of course.) What point would lynching Star Wolf serve, even IF he contributed to Fox's death. The goal is to kill Andross, going after anti mafia power roles is the last thing that will achieve that.

You're saying that even if Wolf helped kill Fox, the town should support him? Fox was the most important townie in the game. Killing him hurts the fight against Andross. Anyone who had the best interests of the town at heart would be enraged if they found out Wolf help kill Fox. But you seem to be okay with it.

Yes, I am going to laugh when we just lost the game as you lynched the investigator and made the game blind.

Funny how you only say this after DIY called you out for it.

I'm not just going off your logic, I know you don't think Beskar has a pro town role, but I do, basically, I am not convinced by your arguments.



Beskar, an investigator, is about a good of a source as we can get. I know it is interconnected, but I am not convinced by you so I see your case as either simply incorrect or an attempt to frame Beskar. I went with frame because of the lurking thing. I know Beskar claimed to be less powerful, but with Star Fox gone he certainly ahs power as an investigator.
And why is my contribution less proactive than yours?

You repeatedly say you are not convinced by DIY's arguments, but you never really say why, except for saying Beskar is "about a good of a source as we can get." If Beskar is such a useful pro-townie, why has the mafia not even bothered to attack him or any of his team?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Day/Night Phase Ten

The Awesome Black Hole



This is a for fun video.... but it does explain what happened to pevergreen.

pevergreen's ship had veered off-course.

WAY off course.

Some might say, if his course were marbles, he'd have lost them by now. He was flying through the Meteo asteroid field.

pevergreen: pew pew pew! pew pew pew! Take that, stupids! I am pever, the green! With no uppercase P, you fools! pew pew pew!


The rocks said nothing.


pevergreen: *muttering* Falanges.... Falanges.... I wanna see.... your falanges!


The rocks enjoyed a moment of quiet repose.


pevergreen: Or is it.... Phalanges.....


The rocks contemplated their existence.


pevergreen: No..... No...... that's not true..... that's IMPOSSIBLE!!!


The rocks did not tell pevergreen to search his feelings, he knew it to be true.


pevergreen: Falanges does not start with a P! Uppercase P make.... me..... mad!!! pew pew pew!!!!


The rocks became depressed, and exploded.


pevergreen: Take that, uppercase P! What's that? What's that, sweetness? You say you want to kill more uppercase P? Whatever you say, my love..... we wants to kill the P, don't we? That would be good for us..... and then, all that will be left are the lowercase p.


The space dust drifted away.


pevergreen: But..... if all the uppercase P are gone.......


The space dust swirled towards the black hole.


pevergreen: Then...... then...... lowercase p will become the NEW uppercase! I CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!


The space dust experienced spaghettification.


pevergreen: Buzz Lightyear to Star Command! Come in, Star Command! I was on my way to the gamma quadrant of sector 4 when I encountered hostiles, obviously working for the evil emperor Zurg! They took the shape of the dreaded uppercase P. I blasted them to smithereenies, but now..... now....


The space dust appeared redder.... and dimmer.... and slower.


pevergreen: Now I realize the error of my ways. The uppercase P are our friends too.... without them..... there is no lowercase p.


The space dust were transported to the end of time and space.


pevergreen: I've made my decision! This is it! I'm going in the warp zone to save them! To..... save them all! I'm coming for you, uppercase P! I won't let you die, not when we've been through SO MUCH together! Fire all thrusters.... WOOOOOSHHHH!!!! Ready the tractor beam!


The red fire truck on pevergreen's dashboard slid around.


pevergreen: Hello mister fire truck! We're going to save your friends! Wooo wooo woooo honk honk clang clang clang clang!!!!!


The red fire truck looked at pevergreen and nodded.


pevergreen: Here I come, uppercase P! You won't die, as long as Captain Proton and Buster Kincaid are on the job! Take that, Doctor Chaotica! pew pew pew!


pevergreen's Cornerian fighter spiraled into the Black Hole.


pevergreen: If I don't come back, tell my toaster.... that I love her very much.


pevergreen's Cornerian fighter approached the event horizon.


pevergreen: Hello boys!!! I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!


pevergreen hit the eject button, and crashed through his cockpit window with a big ****-eating grin on his face. He died instantly, but due to the strange gravitational effects, time seemed to stand still.... and that final moment seemed like an eternity. pevergreen lived forever in that moment, moving towards the light.... and he was able to rescue the uppercase P. The end.

In other news:

Someone flew out of Venom's atmosphere and began firing green blasters at Pigma's ship.

Pigma Dengar: *oink* You can't beat me, I've got a better ship!

The attacking vessel flew away, discouraged.

Elsewhere, inside the Vortex:

Andross: Ah.... the son of James McCloud!

Andross grabbed ahold of Frozen in Ice's ship, and crushed it to itty bitty bits.

Such a shame, Andross..... he was already dead.

Just outside the Vortex:

landlubber: YARRRRR!!! AVAST MATEY!!! HOIST THE MAIN SAIL!!! SWAB THE POOP DECK!!!

Shogun Droid: Don't party just yet.

Gorgon: I'm going to crush you!

landlubber: YARRRRR!!!














PHASES COMPLETE

SHIPS DESTROYED: 2








pevergreen- Cornerian Fighter (by the lynch)






landlubber- Cornerian Fighter (murder)

James McCloud: You've become so strong, Fox. All hope is not yet lost.....

Alive: (19/44)

Alexander the Pretty Good
Autolycus
Beskar
Chaotix
civplayah
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
hell_hound
Khazaar
Miotas
Nightbringer
Death is Yonder
Secura
shlin28
Skooma Addict
TheFlax
Psychonaut
wideyedwanderer
Yaseikhaan


Dead: (24/44)

Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Pinman- Attack Carrier pilot- Attack Carrier
Yaropolk- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Seon- Venomian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Romanic- Falco Lombardi
God Emperor- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Beefy187- Rob64
Renata- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Frozen in Ice- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Joooray- Krystal
ArpeggiateTHIS- Bill Grey
Nictel- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Double A- Slippy Toad
Krill- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Johnhughthom- Katt Monroe
Choxorn- Fox McCloud
pevergreen- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
landlubber- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot

Out of this Dimension: (5/44)

White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.
Rob_the_Celt- No vote 3 days in a row.
merciary- No vote 3 days in a row.
YLC- No vote 3 days in a row.
Stuck in Pi- No vote 3 days in a row.


Replacements:

Death is Yonder replaces Remake20
pevergreen replaces White_Eyes
civplayah replaces Winston Hughes
choxorn replaces Splitpersonality
Chaotix replaces merciary
Shlin28 replaces Rob_the_Celt
Psychonaut replaces YLC

No more replacement players.



Begin Day 11. Phase ends July 20th at 1159 (GMT -5)

[Beskar]

??? wins the failed attack on a Star Wolf member award.

Also, Nightbringer was telling the truth, he is a Venomian.

From the write-up, looks like there were 3 attacks last night. Two from Andross and one from ???.

I am going to be blunt, but 3 people voted for me last round who haven't been investigated yet. So most likely our three mafia are Chaotix, Wideeyewanderer and Autolycus.

[Death is yonder]

??? wins the failed attack on a Star Wolf member award.

Also, Nightbringer was telling the truth, he is a Venomian.

From the write-up, looks like there were 3 attacks last night. Two from Andross and one from ???.

I am going to be blunt, but 3 people voted for me last round who haven't been investigated yet. So most likely our three mafia are Chaotix, Wideeyewanderer and Autolycus.

Three out of three, somehow the magic coincidence fairy strikes again Beskar?

Right, from the looks of things, the game is almost over for mafia victory. We can guarentee town victory within 4 rounds, if we get a mafia today or tomorrow. By the looks of the write-up, there is an estimate of 3 mafia, Peppy, 3 town left unchecked. This is assuming the mafia are Andross, Gorgon and Shogun Driod (the two recent editions)

The non-investigated:
Wideeyewanderer (anti-wolf)
Chaotix (anti-wolf)
Death is Yonder (anti-wolf)
Autolycus (lurker, anti-wolf)
ATPGood (lurker)
hell_hound (epic lurker)
Miotas (epic lurker)

Since miotas and hell_hound are lurking really badly, I will take a gamble and say these two are probably town.

This leaves the 5 above them to be 3 of the mafia, ??? and Peppy. If Peppy steps forward, this would easily narrow it down to the 3 mafia and either the last being a town or ???.




It is in the write-up, plus I know Pizza very well. I can put 1+1 together.

Next, Beskar thinks: "Hmm, this DiY is awfully troublesome, he's exposing all the inconvenient truths! Darn, how can I get rid of him!?"

By the way, ignore any posts by the 5 prime suspects, unless one of them reveals they are Peppy. The mafia know they are in trouble and attempting to get me lynched.

At a guess though, Wideeye might be Cornerian (Some one in Star Wolf who think so, I however, think it is most likely ATPGood being the townie), I think DIY is Peppy. This would leave Autolycus, Chaotix and ATPGood being the mafia.

Chaotix probably did the error, and therefore is Andross. Since he was the only one who posted after Frozen in Ice in the last page, and the current guesstimate is having DIY as not being the mafia.

ATPGood/Wideeyewander and Autolycus are most likely his mafia partners.

That is my educated guess. Anyone else feel free to contribute.

Yes!

"I will strongly insinuate that he is the remaining pro-town role even though he's a simple cornelian! Maybe that will get that pesky bugger killed hehehe!"

Cut: Omniscient narrator

Right Beskar, so basically you abhor posting all your cards, saying its bad mafia strategy [as in the game in general], then you demand that everyone lays their cards down to see.

Why am I being so vehement about this? Because I'm a simple cornelian, I have nothing to lose, only my credibility. However, I've spotted all your nonsense and I'm making sure that people don't listen to you without a pinch of salt, not the gospel truth that its becoming.

Also, you state that :

By the way, ignore any posts by the 5 prime suspects, unless one of them reveals they are Peppy. The mafia know they are in trouble and attempting to get me lynched.

How many times have I said lynch Beskar? My main goal is for people to remember to take your posts with lots of salt, not as the gospel truth as it seems to be becoming.

That's all I've been advocating Beskar, in case it wasn't clear.

I'm also not liking how your downplaying the fact that none of your members were attacked by Andross/??? the previous night.

Anyway moving on to catching scum with obvious results (IE: Andross):

Vote: Autolycus

You've got one chance Beskar, heck I don't care if you really are cooperating with Andross and Auto is a mafia that you tossed under the bus to buy yourself more time. Results (positive ones) would be beneficial at this time.

Do remember Beskar, to live up to your promises should you be wrong.

Quote again for special effects and more.

If he is not mafia, kill me tomorrow. If he is mafia, I would like all the "wolf objectors" to work with me, opposed to disrupt the game.

I should think that public opinion of wolf would drop drastically (and rightly so) if try to talk yourself out of that tomorrow if you are wrong.

Right: Messed up my bold tags for the vote, apologies for edited vote post.

[Death is yonder]

Unvote: Autolycus
Vote: Autolycus

Making a proper vote, just in case edited vote post is not allowed.

[Double A]

Poor pever...

[civplayah]

What I don't understand is the attack on Frozen in Ice.

[Beskar]

What I don't understand is the attack on Frozen in Ice.

Andross sent in orders to attack him, but Frozen in Ice was already dead. Hence the "epic write-up" comment from Pizza, as in, Epic Fail.

[Double A]

I sure hope Andross doesn't attack me tonight, I don't know how I'd survive.

[Choxorn]

Andross sent in orders to attack him, but Frozen in Ice was already dead. Hence the "epic write-up" comment from Pizza, as in, Epic Fail.

Perfect Information Syndrome much?

[Diana Abnoba]

That was so funny!!! Poor pever, well at least he died happy, with his fire truck at his side!

Interesting more Vig killers come out of the woodwork, what like 2 more. Also we got lucky this time as mafia can't keep track of who's already dead, to plan to kill (nice wasted night kill for us-thanks).

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: hell_hound for now, just for some pressure, need to speak up more.