Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[Pinman]

I bet it's some innate attempt at being town, when in fact your neutral, and need to survive or outnumber us.

Roleclaim.

[Renata]

Someone is clearly forgetting Rubicon...

I'm ignoring the faction thing and going after the killer faction and I'm pretty sure if we don't want the bad guys to win, then that's what we should be doing. You're either scum or misguided in your effort at this point in the game in my humble opinion.

And how would you suggest we find this killer faction? Will they all be acting like Cornerians, and hence going after suspected Venomians is bound never to catch a single one? Or might we accomplish one goal, while trying to accomplish another?

[TheFlax]

Wow, you Venomian's just come right out to defend each other don't you? I bet it's some innate attempt at being town, when in fact your neutral, and need to survive or outnumber us. Odd, that both of those goals would mean that Cornerians would have to die regardless, either to make sure your dead partners win or in your stead. Don't forget the fact you can change sides, to a much less benevolent goal.

The only good Venomian is a dead one.

What I find hilarious is you saying this when you've actually know me for quite a while. As either faction I'm going to go for the real badguys, you know, the ones with actual night kills? Imagine just for a moment everyone on both faction was exactly like you. It would be one of the easiest game ever for who ever are the bad guys.

Who exactly am I defending, someone who has just been lynched? Right. Or is it because I'm perhaps because I tremble in fear that you might use another blatant attempt at uncovering factions? It's more along the lines of I don't care, either as a Cornerian or a Venomian I can win by killing off the bad guys and surviving. Which are my goal in every game where I'm not scum.

But please, do continue with the sterotypical rethoric and the misinformation. I'm sure it will give positive results.

[TheFlax]

And how would you suggest we find this killer faction? Will they all be acting like Cornerians, and hence going after suspected Venomians is bound never to catch a single one? Or might we accomplish one goal, while trying to accomplish another?

I'll go after anyone who I think is scummy, wether they claim to be cornerian or venomian. As for how we will find the bad guys... Well this is a mafia game, right? We go with the usual ways.

[Renata]

That's my point, though -- you seem to be too vehement toward what YLC says he's doing. Who cares if YLC focuses on lynching Venomians? The scum are as likely to blend in with them as elsewhere, as far as I can tell. It's at least as much use as random votes or random vigs, and both of those have had success in the past. They've failed, too, but so has everything else -- I should know.

Anyway -- why so vehement? I've thought of a possible reason while writing this, but you haven't expressed it yet, so -- care to try?

[Double A]

Phew... I was afraid for a second there we slipped up and lynched a joker... Pizza don't scare me like that!

[TheFlax]

That's my point, though -- you seem to be too vehement toward what YLC says he's doing. Who cares if YLC focuses on lynching Venomians? The scum are as likely to blend in with them as elsewhere, as far as I can tell. It's at least as much use as random votes or random vigs, and both of those have had success in the past. They've failed, too, but so has everything else -- I should know.

Anyway -- why so vehement? I've thought of a possible reason while writing this, but you haven't expressed it yet, so -- care to try?

I didn't think I was vehement. Annoyed, yes. Why? Because YLC isn't the first, WEW for example was all proud of killing scum when in fact killing neutral roles. Its a slippery slope and I'm preempting. I don't feel the need to go on and on about this either. Those who want to go on a venomian hunt will all get a big "meh" from me.

[Renata]

OK.

My own only issue with such strategy (if it can be called that) is if it starts to look like someone is using it as a smokescreen for having no actual ability to hunt scum; that is, if the person is scum himself and using the venomian/cornerian feud as a mere excuse.

[miotas]

Combined efforts? That is truly luaghable - I know how these things work. Either the Cornerians win, or the Venomians do - there is no "combined" effort, there are two towns and once one starts to take the lead in numbers and organization, the other gets stomped flat. I'm just ahead of the curve, and your a bit behind it.

See, in this game, my tactics work, because I've got a lot of targets. The Cornerians are going to win, sorry, I'll make sure of it.

According to the roles that ATPG posted in the thread, this only applies to Cornerians, personal victory for Venomians only requires survial after the baddies are dead. Venomians can have mutual victory, Cornerians can't.

[TheFlax]

OK.

My own only issue with such strategy (if it can be called that) is if it starts to look like someone is using it as a smokescreen for having no actual ability to hunt scum; that is, if the person is scum himself and using the venomian/cornerian feud as a mere excuse.

If I ever do that, please lynch me.

According to the roles that ATPG posted in the thread, this only applies to Cornerians, personal victory for Venomians only requires survial after the baddies are dead. Venomians can have mutual victory, Cornerians can't.

Nope, Cornerian VC = town. Meaning, killing the baddies. You're mixing it up with their personal goal. Venomian's VC is to outnumber Cornerians. (Even this way they can both win together) Even if Venomians aren't the most numerous by the end, those Venomians who survived still win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nope, Cornerian VC = town. Meaning, killing the baddies. You're mixing it up with their personal goal. Venomian's VC is to outnumber Cornerians. (Even this way they can both win together) Even if Venomians aren't the most numerous by the end, those Venomians who survived still win.

This interpretation is correct.

[ULC]

Roleclaim.

I'm allowed to roleclaim in public, it's in the rules.

I didn't think I was vehement. Annoyed, yes. Why? Because YLC isn't the first, WEW for example was all proud of killing scum when in fact killing neutral roles. Its a slippery slope and I'm preempting. I don't feel the need to go on and on about this either. Those who want to go on a venomian hunt will all get a big "meh" from me.

Au contraire, I am not hunting you - your just a good alternative. When the day ends, it is bad for the town to lynch a Cornerian, and better to lynch your kind.

[wideyedwanderer]

I did make an embarrassing mistake in assuming Venomians were scum. This is the first time I've played in a game with two townie factions. I believe that Cornerians and Venomians both need to focus on hunting mafia, not each other, or else we'll be doing the mafia a big favor.

And Choxorn, I did vig kill several innocents in NOTW, but that was just stupidity on my part. None of the innocents communicated with me, and I was really hunting blind.

[Beskar]

YLC means "Your Loving Cornerian".

[Pinman]

@ YLC - I never said you weren't: Just wanted to identify it clearly.

[Romanic]

Interesting how some of you are arguing that Venomians and Cornerians are on the same team. I haven't played the game (so correct me if I'm wrong) but this is called Lylat Wars, which is a war fought between the Venomians and the Cornerians. ATPG is making this a sequel I believe, so Corneria just defeated Venom and we're now at peace, however this could change because of this line from the Venomian role PM:

The Venomian Forces can win with the town, but this victory condition may change.

Unsure how it would change, but destiny (aka ATPG) probably has a twist ready for us around the corner. So hold on to your peace banners, because the 2nd Lylat War may start sooner than you think.

[Chaotix]

I did make an embarrassing mistake in assuming Venomians were scum. This is the first time I've played in a game with two townie factions. I believe that Cornerians and Venomians both need to focus on hunting mafia, not each other, or else we'll be doing the mafia a big favor.

And Choxorn, I did vig kill several innocents in NOTW, but that was just stupidity on my part. None of the innocents communicated with me, and I was really hunting blind.

I'm debating the sincerity of this post right now. You are new, but that doesn't mean you're not clever. I'm not going to take you for granted, wideyed.

[ULC]

YLC means "Your Loving Cornerian".

It means "Your Lord and Conqueror", a line spoken in Eternal Darkness.

[Renata]

I though it meant Yvonne Lucia Clark? :)

[Seon]

It means "Your Lord and Conqueror", a line spoken in Eternal Darkness.

That game made me lose my sanity. Not that I had much to begin with.

[ULC]

I though it meant Yvonne Lucia Clark? :)

It means a lot of things. Some how, I ended up with YLC becoming a theme in every game I play XD.

[Double A]

What about BMP?

[ULC]

What about BMP?

Besakr tried but I'm not THAT vain.

[pevergreen]

It means "Your Lord and Conqueror", a line spoken in Eternal Darkness.

I remember before you changed your username to YLC. Thanks for making what we called you your username.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sadly I am missing orders still. I guess the quick night phase was just a pipe dream. See you in 23 hours!

[wideyedwanderer]

I'm debating the sincerity of this post right now. You are new, but that doesn't mean you're not clever. I'm not going to take you for granted, wideyed.

I'm gonna take this as a compliment. Being new and possibly clever is a lot better than being new and stupid.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Night Phase Three

Fortuna- Former Defense Post




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Chaotix and his squadron made it to Fortuna, the planet on the other side of the Meteo Asteroid field. Their group arrived ahead of all the others. Before enterting orbit, Chaotix noted that there were no radio transmissions coming from the base. He ordered his squadron to be cautious as they began their descent.

Chaotix: Blue 7 to Fortuna base, come in please.

Chaotix noted that there were powerful ice storms over Fortuna base, and that was a possible explanation for the radio silence. But there shouldn't have been any ice storms at all; Fortuna was a terraformed world. It should have been a lush, green paradise, with climate controlled, gentle rain falling precisely on schedule. Ice storms shouldn't exist on this planet. Perhaps the atmospheric control systems were malfunctioning. Chaotix became very nervous as he realized there was something very wrong here.

Chaotix: Blue squadron, stay in close formation and prepare to return to orbit on my command. Something's not right here.

As they broke through the clouds, Chaotix saw a scene of utter chaos. There was a horrendous blizzard, and Fortuna base appeared abandoned. There were dozens of fighters engaged in maneuvers around the base, firing weapons at each other. One of the starfighters broke off from the main group and went straight for Blue Squadron, firing brilliant red plasma directly at the Cornerian fighters.

Chaotix: Evasive maneuver Gamma Three! Pull up! All craft pull up!

Immediately, his group performed a Cornerian Starburst maneuver. The fighters positioned themselves into a star, and performed a barrel roll, then split off in five different directions. Some of the craft took damage from the plasma fire, but made it back behind the clouds. Blue 7 wasn't so lucky, as his position in the formation demanded that he pull his craft directly toward the planet's surface before doing a U-turn and escaping behind the clouds. During the maneuver, Blue 7 took serious damage and Chaotix's cockpit began to fog up. The cabin was exposed to the atmosphere due to hull microfractures; there would be no way that Chaotix could escape back into space.

The situation was grim. Chaotix's vessel streaked toward the planet's surface, spinning rapidly to deflect incoming fire. At the last moment Chaotix pulled out of the spin, and leveled off his craft, and headed straight for Fortuna Base. The starfighter that fired on him was close behind.

This party is by invitation only, and you're not on the guest list.

I can't shake this guy....

Perhaps you should have stayed on Corneria, where you belong. This is our base now.

This planet is under Cornerian jurisdiction! Attacking one of our bases means war!

Your base? Hardly. We didn't attack your base. It wasn't in Cornerian hands when we found it. You couldn't even keep it out of the hands of pirates and petty thieves.

Who attacked us? What happened to the base?

I'm not going to do all the work for you. Surely you could have figured it out by now. And although I have enjoyed our chat, I'm afraid it is time for you to leave.

I can't leave. Your plasma fire caused microfractures to appear on my hull; if I go into space I won't survive.

Please do accept my sincerest apologies. Here, let me fix your problem for you.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

ZAP ZAP ZAP ZAP


Chaotix: GAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Katina- Frontline Base





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Romanic was heading towards Katina, responding to a distress call from the base. Duty-bound to respond, Romanic double-checked his damaged systems and dropped out of warp.

Romanic: I'll be there soon!

On the other side of the warp corridor, he noticed a huge spatial vortex just a hundred thousand kilometers from the planet.

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Katina Base Commander: Missile approaching. Distance 50.

From the vortex, several missiles with proton-antiproton warheads streaked towards Katina. Romanic sprung into action and flew into a low orbit, and began firing green blasters at the missiles. The first missile exploded harmlessly several kilometers above the atmosphere.

Romanic: Scratch one bogey.

Katina Base Commander: Missile approaching. Distance 20.

The Arwing did a vertical U-turn and headed back in the other direction. Romanic spotted two more missiles headed for the surface, and fired as rapidly as he could at the warheads, attempting to detonate them. Within a few seconds, both missiles had been destroyed.

Romanic: Yeah! It's working!

Katina Base Commander: Missile approaching. Distance 10.

The Arwing quickly turned to the right and headed for the cluster of three missiles, just a few kilometers above the base. They would reach their targets within 30 seconds.

Romanic: Katina Base, I'll be there as fast as I can. But I've taken damage..... the Arwing might not make it.

Katina Base Commander: We are unable to evacuate in time. We are counting on you.

Romanic: I'll give it everything I've got. Firing up the emergency thrusters! EEEEYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

The Arwing blasted toward the surface, shields buckling due to the atmospheric friction. Romanic could feel his vessel being torn apart, but he fired his last remaining Nova Bomb. The bomb streaked toward the cluster of missiles, and exploded dead center. In the resulting explosion, all three of the missile warheads were detonated safely, a mere 3 kilometers above Katina base. Romanic wiped the sweat from his feathered brow, and noted how close Katina base had come to being destroyed.

Romanic: Hoooo.... that was too close. Well, Falco, I guess you're good for something.

Katina Base Commander: Falco, Katina is in your debt. Thank you for saving our lives. Katina base is OK!

Romanic: I wish I could say the same, Katina base...... I'm having some trouble here.

Suddenly, Romanic's Arwing stalled in the upper atmosphere. The emergency thrusters had been damaged during the encounter with Star Wolf, and he must have been leaking fuel. The Arwing was operating now on minimum thruster power. He wouldn't be able to land safely, so he pulled his craft up and attempted to bounce off of the atmosphere like a pebble skipping off of a pond.

Romanic: Come on baby, hold together.....

As Romanic's Arwing escaped the atmosphere of Katina, it was slowly being drawn toward the giant vortex in space that just seemed to be getting larger and larger. The vortex was a gravity well of never-before-seen proportions. With no way to escape from the gravitational pull using engine power, Romanic tried one last desperation maneuver. Romanic released the antimatter from his main fuel hold and it began to spiral down into the gravity well. Using his thrusters, he positioned the Arwing and fired at the antimatter with his blasters. The resulting explosion blasted the Arwing free from both planet Katina and the gravity well.

Romanic: WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!! I MADE IT!!!!

The gravity well began to close, but one final proton-antiproton missile emerged, and headed straight for Romanic's ship.

Romanic: I guess I just can't catch a break......

Romanic: KATT!! WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU?????















PHASE COMPLETE

SHIPS DESTROYED: 2

Chaotix- Cornerian fighter




Romanic- Falco Lombardi

Alive: (36/44)

Alexander the Pretty Good
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beefy187
Beskar
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
hell_hound
johnhughthom
Joooray
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
merciary
Miotas
Nictel
Nightbringer
Pinman
Death is Yonder
Renata
Rob_the_Celt
Secura
Seon
Skooma Addict
splitpersonality
Stuck in Pi
TheFlax
pevergreen
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC


Dead: (8/44)

Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Romanic- Falco Lombardi


Out of this Dimension: (1/44)

White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.




Begin Day Four

Voting ends 2359 June 24th, GMT -5:00 (Eastern time USA).

Night action results being sent out now.

[johnhughthom]

[Double A]

NOOOOO! FALCO! YOU WERE THE COOL ONE!

[Pinman]

Blah, now that isn`t good.