Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

ATPG: I approve.

I'm rating this my second favourite lynching of me. It would be #1, but CDTC just edges it out for me wearing a holocaust cloak and being strapped to a cannon.

[naut]

I love how your story never stops changing, Beskar.

It's unbelievable. At this stage I really don't care anymore. We've had another failed lynch yesterday. Beskar is leading he show, and the show is failing. Therefore he should go.

It's pretty obvious that Beskar and his cronies played a role in Star Fox's teams downfall, either deliberately or accidentally by being loose with information. So Peppy, DO NOT REVEAL TO BESKAR!

[Nightbringer]

It's unbelievable. At this stage I really don't care anymore. We've had another failed lynch yesterday. Beskar is leading he show, and the show is failing. Therefore he should go.

At this point we don't have time to care whether the show is failing, the show isnt andross. What other objective might star wolf have that would be worth getting rid of him before andross? even if us killing andross leads to star wolf winning over the town somehow (I don't see how this would work), does it really matter. our primary objective is to kill andross, lets do that then deal with any other issues. Beskar is giving us leads towards andross when no one else is so i say follow that. what is the worst that can happen? we lynch another town, we would be very likely to dot hat anyway without other leads and lynching beskar would just remove a strong anti andross role, whether or not he is pro town.

[Beskar]

Chaotix claimed Venomian (post #1302).

Yet, if he was really Venomian, he wouldn't be so anti-wolf.

Fine, unvote; vote: autolycus

[pevergreen]

what is the worst that can happen? we lynch another town, we would be very likely to dot hat anyway without other leads and lynching beskar would just remove a strong anti andross role, whether or not he is pro town.

Worst that happens:

Star Wolf victory

Lynching probable townie - lynching probably anti town

[Beskar]

It's unbelievable. At this stage I really don't care anymore. We've had another failed lynch yesterday.

which Romanic/Falco chose out of the likely candidates. I said these are the uninvestigated, never claimed they are mafia. There are bound to be errors. I never said to lynch you, I have said the opposite. In otherwards, quit being a fool.

Beskar is leading he show, and the show is failing. Therefore he should go.

Show isn't failinng at all, if it follows my lead, we can win by tomorrow. I think that is a very good result. especially since I have stopped proven innocents from being lynched as well.

It's pretty obvious that Beskar and his cronies played a role in Star Fox's teams downfall, either deliberately or accidentally by being loose with information. So Peppy, DO NOT REVEAL TO BESKAR!

That is incorrect as Star Fox revealed themselves by themselves. Stop trying to hinder the town efforts to stop the mafia.

[Nightbringer]

Worst that happens:

Star Wolf victory

Lynching probable townie - lynching probably anti town

But Star Wolf victory would not prevent town victory. Town victory comes from defeating the mafia. The mafia is andross. And Star Wolf is neutral, which is far from anti town. He is the same as the venomians. being a venomian, i know that all we want is to outnumber the cornarians.

unvote; vote: autolycus

[Double A]

which Romanic/Falco chose out of the likely candidates. I said these are the uninvestigated, never claimed they are mafia. There are bound to be errors. I never said to lynch you, I have said the opposite. In otherwards, quit being a fool.


Show isn't failinng at all, if it follows my lead, we can win by tomorrow. I think that is a very good result. especially since I have stopped proven innocents from being lynched as well.



That is incorrect as Star Fox revealed themselves by themselves. Stop trying to hinder the town efforts to stop the mafia.

I was the only Star Fox member who revealed without a reason other than to reveal themselves. Beefy was being lynched, and whoever Kat Monroe was lost their PVC or something, so they decided to die. Roman KINDA DIED, so his reveal wasn't voluntary.

[Beskar]

I was the only Star Fox member who revealed without a reason other than to reveal themselves. Beefy was being lynched, and whoever Kat Monroe was lost their PVC or something, so they decided to die. Roman KINDA DIED, so his reveal wasn't voluntary.

Yes, so that is why Johnhughthom and you got killed like you did, it is nothing to do with me like Psychonaut argued.

[Double A]

I got killed because *probably would be deleted by Pizza* and *probably would be deleted by GH*

[Nightbringer]

i think maybe we should all remember this is just a game. everyone is getting passionate about their case but we are all just playing this together lets remember

[Diana Abnoba]

I agree, this is getting a little out of hand. Beskar just stop trying to defend yourself, you are making it worse. Some just won't believe you know matter what you say.

As for Star Fox; JTH revealed himself IIRC early in the game for no real reason and outed Beefy as not being part of Star Fox, and started the lynch on him that day. Falco revealed was killed then brought back and killed again...and Fox and Peppy, never revealed but, well sorry guys, don't mean to offend, you all are complaining about how Beskar is leading the show, but you guys never did,(even with some of your player revealed and could be a mouthpiece), and by being revealed, of course mafia killed you, duh.

Anyway unvote: hell_hound; Vote: Autolycus he could very well be one of our mafia (he is a good enough player to get this far with no real suspicion on him).

[wideyedwanderer]

At this point we don't have time to care whether the show is failing, the show isnt andross. What other objective might star wolf have that would be worth getting rid of him before andross? even if us killing andross leads to star wolf winning over the town somehow (I don't see how this would work), does it really matter. our primary objective is to kill andross, lets do that then deal with any other issues. Beskar is giving us leads towards andross when no one else is so i say follow that. what is the worst that can happen? we lynch another town, we would be very likely to dot hat anyway without other leads and lynching beskar would just remove a strong anti andross role, whether or not he is pro town.

So if you were running a business, and the business was failing, you wouldn't care, right? Because you don't have time to worry about that, right? We can lynch another townie, or we can lynch the obvious problem, which is Beskar.

Show isn't failinng at all, if it follows my lead, we can win by tomorrow. I think that is a very good result. especially since I have stopped proven innocents from being lynched as well.

You mean, if we follow your lead, YOU can win by tomorrow.

i think maybe we should all remember this is just a game. everyone is getting passionate about their case but we are all just playing this together lets remember

No. This is not a game. It's real.

[Beskar]

You mean, if we follow your lead, YOU can win by tomorrow.

You are correct, that is why I am so passionate. Once I killed Andross, I won the game. Also, the Venomians and Cornerians will also get their victory condition. Also will Peppy.


I will say this.
vote: autolycus

If he is not mafia, kill me tomorrow. If he is mafia, I would like all the "wolf objectors" to work with me, opposed to disrupt the game.

[wideyedwanderer]

Autolycus is probably another Cornerian, and if we lynch him, then you probably win your victory condition or something. I'm not falling for that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No. This is not a game. It's real.

I officially designate you substitute Askthepizzaguy if I have to leave for good.

[Nightbringer]

No. This is not a game. It's real.

Of course XD
but really, i just mean it seems like tempers are starting to flare and thats not fun for anyone

[Death is yonder]

??? wins the failed attack on a Star Wolf member award.

Also, Nightbringer was telling the truth, he is a Venomian.

From the write-up, looks like there were 3 attacks last night. Two from Andross and one from ???.

I am going to be blunt, but 3 people voted for me last round who haven't been investigated yet. So most likely our three mafia are Chaotix, Wideeyewanderer and Autolycus.

Three out of three, somehow the magic coincidence fairy strikes again Beskar?

Right, from the looks of things, the game is almost over for mafia victory. We can guarentee town victory within 4 rounds, if we get a mafia today or tomorrow. By the looks of the write-up, there is an estimate of 3 mafia, Peppy, 3 town left unchecked. This is assuming the mafia are Andross, Gorgon and Shogun Driod (the two recent editions)

The non-investigated:
Wideeyewanderer (anti-wolf)
Chaotix (anti-wolf)
Death is Yonder (anti-wolf)
Autolycus (lurker, anti-wolf)
ATPGood (lurker)
hell_hound (epic lurker)
Miotas (epic lurker)

Since miotas and hell_hound are lurking really badly, I will take a gamble and say these two are probably town.

This leaves the 5 above them to be 3 of the mafia, ??? and Peppy. If Peppy steps forward, this would easily narrow it down to the 3 mafia and either the last being a town or ???.




It is in the write-up, plus I know Pizza very well. I can put 1+1 together.

Next, Beskar thinks: "Hmm, this DiY is awfully troublesome, he's exposing all the inconvenient truths! Darn, how can I get rid of him!?"

By the way, ignore any posts by the 5 prime suspects, unless one of them reveals they are Peppy. The mafia know they are in trouble and attempting to get me lynched.

At a guess though, Wideeye might be Cornerian (Some one in Star Wolf who think so, I however, think it is most likely ATPGood being the townie), I think DIY is Peppy. This would leave Autolycus, Chaotix and ATPGood being the mafia.

Chaotix probably did the error, and therefore is Andross. Since he was the only one who posted after Frozen in Ice in the last page, and the current guesstimate is having DIY as not being the mafia.

ATPGood/Wideeyewander and Autolycus are most likely his mafia partners.

That is my educated guess. Anyone else feel free to contribute.

Yes!

"I will strongly insinuate that he is the remaining pro-town role even though he's a simple cornelian! Maybe that will get that pesky bugger killed hehehe!"

Cut: Omniscient narrator

Right Beskar, so basically you abhor posting all your cards, saying its bad mafia strategy [as in the game in general], then you demand that everyone lays their cards down to see.

Why am I being so vehement about this? Because I'm a simple cornelian, I have nothing to lose, only my credibility. However, I've spotted all your nonsense and I'm making sure that people don't listen to you without a pinch of salt, not the gospel truth that its becoming.

Also, you state that :

By the way, ignore any posts by the 5 prime suspects, unless one of them reveals they are Peppy. The mafia know they are in trouble and attempting to get me lynched.

How many times have I said lynch Beskar? My main goal is for people to remember to take your posts with lots of salt, not as the gospel truth as it seems to be becoming.

That's all I've been advocating Beskar, in case it wasn't clear.

I'm also not liking how your downplaying the fact that none of your members were attacked by Andross/??? the previous night.

Anyway moving on to catching scum with obvious results (IE: Andross):

Vote: Autolycus

You've got one chance Beskar, heck I don't care if you really are cooperating with Andross and Auto is a mafia that you tossed under the bus to buy yourself more time. Results (positive ones) would be beneficial at this time.

Do remember Beskar, to live up to your promises should you be wrong.

Quote again for special effects and more.

If he is not mafia, kill me tomorrow. If he is mafia, I would like all the "wolf objectors" to work with me, opposed to disrupt the game.

I should think that public opinion of wolf would drop drastically (and rightly so) if try to talk yourself out of that tomorrow if you are wrong.

Right: Messed up my bold tags for the vote, apologies for edited vote post.

[Death is yonder]

Unvote: Autolycus
Vote: Autolycus

Making a proper vote, just in case edited vote post is not allowed.

[autolycus]

Well, looks like it's time for me to reveal.

Right, from the looks of things, the game is almost over for mafia victory. We can guarentee town victory within 4 rounds, if we get a mafia today or tomorrow. By the looks of the write-up, there is an estimate of 3 mafia, Peppy, 3 town left unchecked. This is assuming the mafia are Andross, Gorgon and Shogun Driod (the two recent editions)

The non-investigated:
Wideeyewanderer (anti-wolf)
Chaotix (anti-wolf)
Death is Yonder (anti-wolf)
Autolycus (lurker, anti-wolf)
ATPGood (lurker)
hell_hound (epic lurker)
Miotas (epic lurker)

Since miotas and hell_hound are lurking really badly, I will take a gamble and say these two are probably town.

This leaves the 5 above them to be 3 of the mafia, ??? and Peppy. If Peppy steps forward, this would easily narrow it down to the 3 mafia and either the last being a town or ???.

There's one problem with this idea you're trying to sell us, Beskar. Namely, that I'm none of those five. I happen to be General Pepper. Now how about you be a good little mercenary and die. I think you know darn well who ??? is because I think he's one of your people. You cannot be allowed to raid us from the asteroids any longer.
Vote: Beskar

[pevergreen]

Ghost double innocent pever suggests voting for Beskar.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Vote: Autolycus

Beskar has not accomplished much, but to be honest we made our bed and need to see it through.

[Renata]

Wonderful job guys. Let's keep listening to Beskar and lynch Cornerians, shall we? That'll win the game - for Beskar.

Except Beskar didn't make that suggestion. The accusations against Beskar are half sensible (DiY) and half so off -base or over the top (you, Psychonaut) that I'm convinced they must be coming from mafia.

And now Peppy is outed too? *sigh*

I would probably lynch WEW today, given Beskar one last chance. But if that's not going to happen, how about instead of lynching Beskar we lynch Secura? She's clearly on his team, but she's not Star Wolf herself. If the team has gone over, wouldn't she be just as good? And less valuable if this is all just a massive townie screwup.

[TheFlax]

Vote: Autolycus

Beskar has not accomplished much, but to be honest we made our bed and need to see it through.

Voting for someone who claims General Pepper?

Hmmm, this makes me think, while you are not on Beskar's list, we have no idea what you are...

Vote: CDF

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Voting for someone who claims General Pepper?

Hmmm, this makes me think, while you are not on Beskar's list, we have no idea what you are...

Vote: CDF

wait when did he claim that? I will be honest, I mostly skimmed the thread.


edit: ahhhhhhhhh right above my post. cool

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Unvote: Autolycus, Vote: WideyedWanderer


right. I will actually read through the page before voting next time. Going to take a nap now.

[miotas]

Vote: CDF

[Secura]

how about instead of lynching Beskar we lynch Secura?

I'm sorry, but why should I be punished for the perceived mistakes of another person? Don't you think that's somewhat unfair?

You're essentially suggesting that the town cuts off the tail but leaves the head controlling the show, especially when it's everything that the head's done that is annoying people, not the tail.

[johnhughthom]

I'm sorry, but why should I be punished for the perceived mistakes of another person? Don't you think that's somewhat unfair?

You're essentially suggesting that the town cuts off the tail but leaves the head controlling the show, especially when it's everything that the head's done that is annoying people, not the tail.

Because it might split the anti-Beskar vote and end with neither of you lynched, cunning plan Renata.

[Renata]

Dude, I'm a dead Cornerian. Good point, though.