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    Holy smokes. Let me say. I was not as confident as I appeared there. Call that a poker face.

    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus View Post
    Ok, so the critical question to my mind is would Andross himself be able to pass as Venomian to Beskar's scans. If not, WEW is the clear choice for tomorrow, and the previous votes by scum were either meant as red herrings or were placed before they got converted. If he can pass, then WEW is one of the few we can be sure is innocent, because WEW came up as non-neutral. I'd love it if someone could look at when during voting phases votes by now-confirmed Androssians were placed on WEW.
    If you are who you say you are then Nightbringer is a good option. He's been posting scummy and was reluctant to vote Chaotix. A vote analysis would be useful to get a better prespective. Especially of the three confirmed Mafia.


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    Chaotix (replacing merciary (spell?)): Abstain, civplayah (middle), hellhound (only), Khazaar (third), WEW (third), Beskar (First, interestingly WEW votes for Beskar here. Unlikely that a Mafia would follow his buddy so blatantly), Autolycus (only)



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    Auto: remake20 (second), Nictel (only), shlin28 (third), Pinman (middle), hell_hound (only), Khazaar (only),
    Frozen (third), ATPGood (third), Chaotix (middle)
    ALSO: Voted by Pinman once


    CDF: No Lynch, civplayah (third), shlin (middle), Stuck in Pi (Didn't vote for Pinman), Beefy (middle)
    landlubber (second), Nictel (middle), WEW (only), Chaotix (first -> I'd say that is a fairly conclusive claim for innocence)



    Khazaar: remake (first), Beefy (second), GE (only), ArpeggiateTHIS (only), Double A (only), Diana (only), ATPGood (end)
    Voted by Diana, both can't be Mafia. Voted by Auto, both can't be Mafia. Voted by Chaotix, decent innocence claim.



    TheFlax: No Lynch, Renata (last), Krill (first), Pinman (end) Beefy (second), Khazaar (end),
    Diana (second), ATPGood (last), Chaotix (end <- first to go after him today though)
    Voted Diana, both can't be Mafia.



    WEW: civplayah (middle), JHT (only), Pinman (second), Seon (end), Khazaar (third), landlubber (first), abstain, Beskar (second),
    Chaotix (middle)
    Voted by Nightbringer, both can't be Mafia. VOTED BY ALL THREE MAFIA IN SAME ROUND. Voted Khazaar, both can't be Mafia.





    Diana Abnoba: pever (first), WE (first), Shlin (end), abstain (didn't vote Pinman), Seon (middle),
    Khazaar (second), Frozen (second), Nictel (third), hell_hound (only), Chaotix (third)
    Interestingly she is too eager to seen as following the "strong-voice" of the town.


    Nightbringer: Frozen (only), WEW (third), WEW (middle), WEW (only), Krill (first), Abstain, Khazaar (last), WEW (first), ATPGood (second), Chaotix (middle)
    Consistent, but confusing as all hell. Why the focus on WEW???


    civplayah (replaceing Winston): JHT (first), civplayah (first), Beefy (last), Khazaar (middle), Abstain, ATPGood (middle), Chaotix (last)




    Star Wolf/Panther if you can Vig please hit one of the ones in black above. Logically, from vote analysis they are most likely to be the remaining Andross. Kthxbai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Nightbringer: Frozen (only), WEW (third), WEW (middle), WEW (only), Krill (first), Abstain, Khazaar (last), WEW (first), ATPGood (second), Chaotix (middle)
    Consistent, but confusing as all hell. Why the focus on WEW???
    The confusing is probably due to me being new and not being confident about voting for most of the game. The focus on WEW is because right in the beginning of the game he did a couple of things that made me see him as very scummy. He was doing a lot of bandwagon jumping and i can't remember what else exactly. Probably not the greatest of reasons but it has just made me very suspicious of him ever since, leading to me being quick to believe cases against him.
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    So, after the analysis by Psychonaut, I've decided to reveal my role PM.

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    Andrew Oikonny





    http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Andrew

    Andrew Oikonny (アンドリュー・オイッコニー, Andoryū Oikkonī) , usually called only by his surname, is the nephew of Andross. In Star Fox 64, Oikonny flies with Star Wolf and primarily goes after Slippy Toad in battles against the Star Fox team for unknown reasons, possibly a rivalry that started over superior intellect in the past. Oikonny was originally supposed to appear in Star Fox 2 as Algy. His first official appearance was in Star Fox 64, where he was a part of Star Wolf. He would always attack Slippy as his first target. When shot down, he would usually yell "Uncle Andross!" Oikonny appears with the rest of Star Wolf in the missions Fichina or Bolse Defense Station. He is also seen in the "back entrance" to Venom where Star Wolf gets new ships. Andrew isn't heard from again until Star Fox Assault, where he has taken control of the remains of Andross's fleet and declared war on Corneria. After plowing through his fleet and chasing all across Fortuna, Oikonny transforms his ship into what Falco calls an "Andross Wannabe" that is soon destroyed by an Aparoid. Oikonny survives and returns in Star Fox Command as an ally to the Anglars piloting the Death Crab. He is then defeated once again by Fox and his team.
    Name: Winston Hughes
    Role: Andrew Oikonny
    Team: Star Wolf
    Victory: Star Wolf (Neutral, for now...)
    Personal Objective: General Pepper must die! His death is your personal goal.
    Ability: You are immune to most investigations.
    • "Give it up! You can't win!" - You are immune to most investigations.


    Team Star Wolf:

    The Star Wolf team is a mercenary group led by Wolf O'Donnell. They were originally associated with the evil Andross, and after his demise cemented themselves as rivals of Star Fox. They also dabbled in more illegal activities such as larceny and smuggling.

    The original team consisted of Wolf O'Donnell, Leon Powalski, Andrew Oikonny, and Pigma Dengar. However in Star Fox: Assault, Andrew left Star Wolf to avenge Andross and Pigma was expelled because of his greediness. Wolf later replaced Andrew and Pigma with Panther Caroso. In Star Fox Command, Krystal joins Star Wolf but can either stay with Star Wolf or join Fox McCloud depending on the player's decisions. Also, they have massive bounties placed on their heads because of their work. Their main ship is the Wolfen.

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    Ship: Wolfen


    While it may interest you to work with the Cornerians for your own survival, you know that revealing yourselves is a bad move. There's a bounty on your head, and when this crisis is over, the Cornerian Army WILL be gunning for you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by civplayah View Post
    So, after the analysis by Psychonaut, I've decided to reveal my role PM.
    Well, this LOOKS legitimate, although the ability being stated twice seems king of odd. Can a member of star wolf confirm this?
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    I'm sure you'd like another Star Wolf member to confirm that, so that you know who they are. Oh, and you're going to need the third remaining member to confirm them, aren't you?

    Gimme a break. Star Wolf, can you kill this guy tonight, please? kthxbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choxorn View Post
    I'm sure you'd like another Star Wolf member to confirm that, so that you know who they are. Oh, and you're going to need the third remaining member to confirm them, aren't you?

    Gimme a break. Star Wolf, can you kill this guy tonight, please? kthxbye.
    What? I meant secura. we all know she is a member of star wolf. I just don't want to be tricked by a fake role pm. I guess if no one counter claims we can be sure of his authenticity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer View Post
    The confusing is probably due to me being new and not being confident about voting for most of the game. The focus on WEW is because right in the beginning of the game he did a couple of things that made me see him as very scummy. He was doing a lot of bandwagon jumping and i can't remember what else exactly. Probably not the greatest of reasons but it has just made me very suspicious of him ever since, leading to me being quick to believe cases against him.
    Uh...no. I didn't do any bandwagon jumping. At all. You can take a look at my past posts if you like. What made me "suspicious" to some people is that I pretty much said that I didn't like Venomians, since I thought they would side with the mafia. (I was wrong.) Cornerians saw that and believed me to be an outspoken Cornerian, while Venomians saw that and just didn't like it. Why the need to make things up, Nightbringer?

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    Silly time to reveal. Why would you reveal now and give yourself up for a night kill. Star Wolf members aren't going to reveal themselves to confirm or deny, that'd be suicide. Why would a Star Wolf member need to be immune from investigation.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Silly time to reveal. Why would you reveal now and give yourself up for a night kill. Star Wolf members aren't going to reveal themselves to confirm or deny, that'd be suicide. Why would a Star Wolf member need to be immune from investigation.?
    Thats why i was asking for a confirmation or denial, it just seems like a kind of odd reveal. youre right about revealing making them targets though.
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    I have all of the orders from everyone, and I have the writeups ready to post. If there's no objections, I will post the writeups now.
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    Night Phase Twelve- Part I

    ALTERCATION






    Death Gate- Androssian Construct





    This video is for fun only, but it shows what the Death Gate looks like.







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    Click for music











    General Pepper: There it is.... this must be the base that Andross has constructed over the star's magnetic pole. The star's magnetic field acts as a nearly impenetrable force field; our cruisers are not equipped with the kind of magnetic shielding it would take to survive in there. The Cornerian fleet cannot continue, so we need you to go on alone. A smaller, more durable craft might be able to generate a field large enough that envelops the entire ship safely.

    Panther Caroso: ....It would polarize our navigational deflector, short out our guidance systems, overload our sensor arrays, destabilize our shield matrix, and fry our targeting computers. However, we would still be able to steer our ships, navigate by sight, and shoot manually. We'd have to avoid taking too many hits, but we can do it.

    Pigma Dengar: *oink* I've got an even more advanced ship, so it should be a piece of cake. That reward's as good as mine!

    Andrew Oikonny: What could possibly go wrong??? We're Star Panther! We're not afraid of some magnetic field.... send us on our way, General.

    General Pepper: If your mission succeeds, you'll be pardoned by the Cornerian government, be awarded enough Cornerian credits to retire in luxury, and granted territory on any of the planets in the Lylat system still controlled by Corneria. Good luck..... I never thought I'd say this, but you are our last, best hope.

    Pigma Dengar: Finally, the appreciation we deserve! My lifetime of thieving, scum, and villainy has finally paid off... just like I knew it always would.... *oink!*

    Panther Caroso: We're heading in. Make sure that Andross doesn't get any reinforcements. I don't have time to watch my six while I'm in there.

    General Pepper: Nothing gets in or out of that base until you come back alive. We'll be covering you; you have my word. Good luck, Caroso, Dengar.... Oikonny.

    Andrew Oikonny: We don't need help anyway. I am the great Andrew. Watch and you might learn something, doggie!





    The Cornerian fleet waited behind while Star Panther, consisting of Panther Caroso, Andrew Oikonny, and Pigma Dengar, attempted to penetrate the force field barriers on the outside of the construct. There were six energy towers, protected by heavily shielded Androssian drone fighters, and at the center of the construct seemed to be a massive gateway, protected by a vast array of shield generators, ion cannons, and even more drone fighters in reserve. The space outside of the construct was filled with energetic plasma carried by intense solar winds, flares and prominences, and extreme magnetic fields. Even the relatively protected area around the construct was a war zone, with all of the automated defenses in place. The approach would not be easy, but Star Panther seemed undaunted by the challenge.



    Pigma Dengar: *oink* Just like old times, Andrew old pal....

    Andrew Oikonny: These fighter drones are no match for us!

    Panther Caroso: Easy to outmaneuver... they haven't built a computer yet that can fly better than me. But their ships are heavily shielded.... my blasters can't penetrate it.

    Pigma Dengar: Here, let me try mine! ....*oink* No good, I can't break through. Let's try it together, Delta formation.

    Andrew Oikonny: I'm in position.

    Panther Caroso: Fire on my mark.... ready, set, mark.








    The three Wolfen ships concentrated their firepower, and overloaded the enemy fighter group's shield grid. The force of the blow caused the drones to scatter, some of them impacting the energy towers, others crashing into the gate itself.



    Pigma Dengar: That's it, we've still got it! Okay, how about those energy towers?

    Andrew Oikonny: Bow before the great Andrew.

    Panther Caroso: We'll take them down with one shot each, on my mark.....



    The Panther team easily took down the 6 energy towers, which cut power to the Gate's shield generator. The force field began disappearing....



    Pigma Dengar: We did it! But there's more fighters approaching fast, coming out of the gate....

    Andrew Oikonny: I'm not afraid of them!

    Panther Caroso: We're going to break through that squadron, and meet inside. Let's get going....

    Pigma Dengar: Wait a second. There's something else emerging from the gate.... they're massive....










    Shogun Droid: Ah ah ah.... you didn't say the magic word!








    Gorgon: We are the gatekeepers.... are you the keymasters?



    The Shogun and The Gorgon appeared from within the Gate, and immediately began chasing after Panther Caroso with mech droids flanking and missiles launching. A missile exploded directly behind Panther himself, sending him flying toward the edge of the satellite, toward the dangerous radiance of the star below them.



    Panther Caroso: Perhaps today.... IS a good day to die!!




    Alive: (9/44)

    Autolycus
    civplayah
    Cultured Drizzt Fan
    Diana Abnoba
    Khazaar
    Nightbringer
    TheFlax
    Psychonaut
    wideyedwanderer
    Yaseikhaan


    Dead: (32/44)

    Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
    pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
    Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot

    civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
    choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
    Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    Pinman- Attack Carrier pilot- Attack Carrier
    Yaropolk- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    Seon- Venomian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
    Romanic- Falco Lombardi
    God Emperor- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot

    Beefy187- Rob64
    Renata- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    Frozen in Ice- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    Joooray- Krystal
    ArpeggiateTHIS- Bill Grey

    Nictel- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
    Double A- Slippy Toad
    Krill- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    Johnhughthom- Katt Monroe
    Choxorn- Fox McCloud

    pevergreen- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
    landlubber- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot

    Alexander the pretty good- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
    Miotas- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
    Secura- Leon Powalski
    Skooma Addict- Rock Crusher Pilot- Rock Crusher
    Death is Yonder- Peppy Hare
    Beskar- Wolf O'Donnell

    Chaotix- Androssian Bio-Weapon- Vulcain
    Cultured Drizzt Fan- Panther Caroso

    Out of this Dimension: (7/44)

    White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.
    Rob_the_Celt- No vote 3 days in a row.
    merciary- No vote 3 days in a row.
    YLC- No vote 3 days in a row.
    Stuck in Pi- No vote 3 days in a row.
    shlin28- No vote 3 days in a row.
    hell_hound- No vote 3 days in a row.



    Replacements:

    Death is Yonder replaces Remake20
    pevergreen replaces White_Eyes
    civplayah replaces Winston Hughes
    choxorn replaces Splitpersonality
    Chaotix replaces merciary
    Shlin28 replaces Rob_the_Celt
    Psychonaut replaces YLC


    No more replacement players.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer View Post
    Uh...no. I didn't do any bandwagon jumping. At all. You can take a look at my past posts if you like. What made me "suspicious" to some people is that I pretty much said that I didn't like Venomians, since I thought they would side with the mafia. (I was wrong.) Cornerians saw that and believed me to be an outspoken Cornerian, while Venomians saw that and just didn't like it. Why the need to make things up, Nightbringer?
    I distinctly remember you voting for someone for the sole reason that your friend did. And i think the cornarian anti venomian thing was the part i dont remember
    oh wait, by going back and finding their post, i now see that i thought you were saying something you were actually quoting, well thats my main reason for mistrusting you from th estart down the drain.
    here are the posts
    Quote Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Yaropolk
    I'm with john on this. Unvote; Vote:Wideyedwanderer
    Way to follow john and vote for someone without providing any reasons, while making yourself look suspicious, coming out of the shadows, hardly posting at all. Once civplayah is lynched we have a lot of other people to vote for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer
    i cant trust anyone that just votes with their friend, smells of team star wolf to me.
    vote:Wideyedwanderer
    I can't believe how stupid that was of me. i even thoguht star wolf were the badguys back then. of course, i think that is my second post in a mafia game, but its just kind of funny to look back on and see how badly i failed

    you did also do some bandwagoning, like the early one on civplayer
    Quote Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer View Post
    That sounds suspicious to me. Vote: civplayah
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