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    Ok, so I have got some permissions to use some models in our mod, and I've re-skin them, so this is the (rather small). lists of units...

    Melayu Bodyguard Elephants (rider model by Wlesmana's LOTR TW.) and Melayu militia (models by wlesmana).


    European Elite Swordsmen (model by Halie Satanus' EOD) and Swordsmen Militia (just dismounted and reskinned Sarmatian Auxilia), the European general is actually Boromir when he got haircut (thanks for Wlesmana's LOTR TW)


    Turanggawesi horse (the riders is still BI model) - maybe I put the seprei too big?


    and here's some in battle screenies...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
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    Melayu Bodyguard Elephants (rider model by Wlesmana's LOTR TW.) and Melayu militia (models by wlesmana).

    ...
    Peurise Awe? Peurise Kajee? No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plutoboyz View Post
    Peurise Awe? Peurise Kajee? No?
    kamsud?

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    Peurise Kajee

    Peurise Awe

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    they are just some lowly militia... can't afford more than simple bamboo shields... and those logos are intended to be some cheap paintings on their shields, rather than actual metallic emboss...

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    wolf, u forgot that the swordsmen militia actually use comb morion helmet, not roman...

    EDIT : And they don't use thureos, they use round buckler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    wolf, u forgot that the swordsmen militia actually use comb morion helmet, not roman...

    EDIT : And they don't use thureos, they use round buckler
    no one using thureos. its kite shield

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    wolf just lock himself in his room, learning how to do modelling in 3dsmax these days... hope he arrive soon... (even he refused to going mall (cuci mata liatin cewe seksi2) together with me because of that...)

    and he should definitely used this handsome face for javanese general...
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    well, after eating instant noodles for 2 days, I finally have done some improvement:

    1) I've made some reskinning so the soldiers are more realistic now, no more cartoon feelings, coz I'm copypasta actual garments to their skins, but maybe I'll ask jiri to refine it again... (still had some bleak spots:



    2) and this was the result of my recent crash course (bothering wlesmana alot on his FB page, as well as seaching modelling tutorials archieve), here we go... the Penjurit models, with square "papan" shield and javelins



    notice that their models are designed with more effective way of spear handling, so while the militia often break their own formations, the penjurit had longer reach and capable to maintain a solid line.

    3) of course, I've made the european swordsmen militia had longer, more proper arming swords, as well round buckler instead of thureos (yes, they are thureos because I took sarmatian auxilia as base model) - note that wasn't the newest screenies, the newest skins had real european faces, but I still search a way to reduce skullheadhq's frescles... without compromising the textures

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    IIRC, this is how sarung worn.


    maybe Intifadanyz knows better.

    well, after eating instant noodles for 2 days, I finally have done some improvement...
    keeps eating noodles! so we have better improvement.
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    I know, maybe next step is moving the sarung to hip line.... ( time to buy some bakso for dinner)

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    That's Sampin Mr. Tirta.... Sampin is worn until knee, but sarong / kain pelekat / kain batik worn until anklebone...

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    sampin: Pahang Style (worn over the shirt)


    sampin: Johore Style (worn under the shirt)


    sampin: Terengganu style (sampin ikat siput: the knot were made like a snail)


    How to wear sarong (in this case, kain pelekat) : This is Malay style, Bangladeshi, Tamil-Muslim and Myanmar men also have kain pelekat, but wear it with different style...

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    well, I use sarung for blanket.... so they should be moved to that area, or better left unchanged?

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    Non-military and militia can used kain pelekat at that area (shoulder), while regulars and nobles wear at waist as sampin.

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    penjurit are only semi-regulars, right?

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    BTW, I just made Sriwijayan Skirmisher unit, armed with javelins, and quite skilled with spears....

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    Are some of those guys in fullplate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamegeek2 View Post
    Are some of those guys in fullplate?
    yupz, the babad, and another historical records describe european generals and such elite units are covered with steel from head to toe (much like Javanese nobles, just wearing different style of armour - the javanese had catass type (scales and partial plates over chain) armour, and europeans should historically worn fullplate)
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    Make some full plate knights already!
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    wolf, could you shown the archers please? did they are allready fixed?
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    Honestly, the European swordsmen militia looks err... not like European swordsmen militia. Look below, adding that european model buckler, removing spear and giving sword and we have European swordsmen militia.

    And it had to be pikemen, but the spear too short, and the animation is wrong.



    BTW, Portuguese standard looks weird with the silver ring. May be it should be smth like this?




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    yay, good Finn, CW's models did look wrong, but at least he only a very newbie in modelling

    perhaps you should PM either me or CW the ziddu link for testing
    don't worry about the pikemen, they have secondary swords yes? they will use "phalanx" formations, so the spear should be automatically generalted via engines, and they will use EB pikemen animation.

    ANd those models should also have crossbowmen models the difference between elites and regulars are just skins, afterall..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn MacCumhail View Post
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    BTW, Portuguese standard looks weird with the silver ring. May be it should be smth like this?

    it used from 1495 to 1578

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    Here are CAS'es http://www.ziddu.com/download/102481...Sword.rar.html

    Don't be confused by their names, I had to replase existing CAS in BI folder, so, I gave them that name. Remember to assign texture to the new folder.

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    I forgot about the timeframe. So is it suit?



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    now, let's make an AAR,
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    what AAR....?

    Ok, ok, so basically, we must rush towards alpha completion, so GSS could made our Promotional AAR

    gogogo.... (and back for skinnin and mounting the portuguese models)

    (basically made pikemen and light lancers out of them)
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    and more detailed information about javanese headgears (this photo is quite accurate, but actually that helmet are made of steel and brass, not leather, and javanese soldiers worn armour in battle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    and more detailed information about javanese headgears (this photo is quite accurate, but actually that helmet are made of steel and brass, not leather, and javanese soldiers worn armour in battle)
    like Gatot Kaca lol

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    Just kidding, okay?
    the Javans do wear armour, but they don't wear shoes, not even sandals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Septimus Severus View Post
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    the Javans do wear armour, but they don't wear shoes, not even sandals
    Sandal were used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plutoboyz View Post
    Sandal were used.
    oh okay, but what's with that big guy in the middle? just kidding
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