So, we need more gay people to have kids...

Originally Posted by Beskar

I apologise, the men of ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt were devote christians who never touched another person, unless it is consumating through marriage.

Or the facts, where they intercourse with everyone, male and female, almost constantly. Homosexuality only became taboo through the institutionalisation of the Christian faith in the Roman Empire. Even then, everyone didn't become virtious. I believe even Gibbsons commented on the examples of Christians in Libya, compared with a Pagan sect.

Doesn't fit the facts, Beskar. The Lex Scantinia specifically criminalized sexual interactions between free persons of the same sex, allowing for the death penalty. Military regulations specifically prohibited it and soldiers were executed for same. A number of Attic Greek city-states allowed or encouraged it, but several Ionian Greek city-states proscribed it. Ancient Egypt is more difficult (too few records) but what appears indicates that it was viewed in a rather mixed fashion. Some references seem to laud the behavior, others take pride in having avoided it.

Homosexuality seems to be more broadly accepted by "mature" (some would say fading or decadent) cultures, whereas it is often viewed negatively in developing cultures. No one answer is 100% on track.

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Doesn't fit the facts, Beskar. The Lex Scantinia specifically criminalized sexual interactions between free persons of the same sex, allowing for the death penalty.

It didn't apply to slaves though, so a Master could have his way with his male pretty boy slaves (Which existed). That was also decipted in the HBO series of Rome.

But yes, it was rather hit and miss depending on who and where, but since i am presuming our early ancestors come from "Animals", they would share the same hedonistic traits, as in, they pretty much mated with everyone and everything, such as demonstrated by pets such as dogs and cats. I am arguing that defined heterosexuality and homosexuality came later on.

Seamus, Beskar,

As much as I respect your arguing for what it is worth, it is in fact worth very little.

"Was homosexuality OK in a time where it was OK to have sex with a girl when she bled" - the whole issue is rather irrelevant.



Let us have a look at the issue with more logical eyes, you know logic, the thing we strive for as humans - and let us rephrase: "Who cares who people love, it is their own decision".

Then of course, you can argue that people who love X is not suitable as parent, but if so, you need to back it up.

I for one think that people who "loves" children should not be allowed to have them. I do not however think that a gay couple would do a worse job than, say, a single mother or a dysfunctinal (or even average?) heterosexual couple.