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    Default Getting rid of Warmonger trait...

    Hey Guys,
    In my current campaign (Romani), I playing defensive on Greece. I resisting the temptation to blitz through the Macedonian and Epirotes. I leave 2 general+ there to defend the border and try to make peace with them. 10+ years and still no peace. Those generals who defend gain a lot of command star but now they gain the trait "warmonger".

    I want to leave my "old" general in cities and allow younger general to gain command star and morale improvement. With warmonger, those old general will gain restless warmonger if i leave them in cities. >.<

    Now my question is how get rid the "warmonger" trait? Do I just put them in cities and they will go away? Or I will have to just live with it?

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    Default Re: Getting rid of Warmonger trait...

    My suggestion is to not use Roman generals to hold the cities, but Allied generals. Use Type IV governments in captured Greek cities initially, and recruit Hellenic garrison troops, not Roman units.

    Only convert captured Greek cities into Roman provinces (Type III or higher governments) once you've captured all of the Greek cities including Pella and Ambrakia.
    Last edited by Titus Marcellus Scato; 06-11-2010 at 07:32.

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    Default Re: Getting rid of Warmonger trait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato View Post
    My suggestion is to not use Roman generals to hold the cities, but Allied generals. Use Type IV governments in captured Greek cities initially, and recruit Hellenic garrison troops, not Roman units.

    Only convert captured Greek cities into Roman provinces (Type III or higher governments) once you've captured all of the Greek cities including Pella and Ambrakia.
    What is the motivation behind that? Is there a reason to use the same policy as KH conquering Italy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zcb888 View Post
    What is the motivation behind that? Is there a reason to use the same policy as KH conquering Italy?
    I suppose the motivation is that historically the romans enacted only indirect influence at first, repeatedly withdrawing their troops from greece after fighting there, until they finally decided to put an end to Macedonia, which in short time led to the annexation of practically the whole region.
    In game terms you could say they had some client kingdoms and converted them after conquering all provinces in the vicinity

    To the opening post: Once a warmonger, always a warmonger. Unless you want to use the give_trait cheat.
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    Default Re: Getting rid of Warmonger trait...

    To the opening post: Once a warmonger, always a warmonger.
    Never mind then. Thought there was a way to get rid of warmonger.

    Unless you want to use the give_trait cheat.
    I have not used cheats before (except once in another game), will not use cheats in EB and never will use cheats in the future (just maybe will not use cheats....).

    I suppose the motivation is that historically the romans enacted only indirect influence at first, repeatedly withdrawing their troops from greece after fighting there, until they finally decided to put an end to Macedonia, which in short time led to the annexation of practically the whole region.
    In game terms you could say they had some client kingdoms and converted them after conquering all provinces in the vicinity
    Now that new to me.

    So what do you guys think how I can avoid the warmonger trait in the future? I will probably be defending a lot in my Romani campaign cause I don't want to blitz through everything before I have Marian and maybe Augustan reform if I have the patience. Should I use allied general to defend border cities like what Titus says?

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    Default Re: Getting rid of Warmonger trait...

    That, or regularly swap generals around. Send one out to defend the border and have him return after a couple of years. That's what the Romans did historically anyway. This also lets you take (part of) his army back home for retraining.

    Your generals won't gain as many command stars but there won't be warmongers either.

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