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    You might have just guessed some of the new units there!

    CA will surely use anything which is historically sound. Units like Teppo Samurai and Archer/Crossbow Ashigaru are both historically accurate and excellent tactical additions.

    I think that after milking the history cow as much as possible, CA will resort to some, so to say, 'twisting' like:
    Heavy Cavalry Archers (more expensive and armoured mounted archers)
    Light Cavalry (fast units like Yari Cavalry but using swords)
    Samurai Infantry (basic katana-wielding samurai troop, fitting in unit balance between Yari Samurai and No-Dachi)


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    I would like to see Masamune Date style Teppo Cavalry men. :D That would make me very happy.... XD
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    Huh, I didn't come across anything about teppo from horseback. Seems like it would be clumsy to shoot and difficult if not impossible to reload. Where'd you read about this out of curiosity? Did they actually shoot while moving or was it more dragoon style where'd the would ride to battle or around the field and mostly get off to actually shoot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Malaise View Post
    Huh, I didn't come across anything about teppo from horseback. Seems like it would be clumsy to shoot and difficult if not impossible to reload. Where'd you read about this out of curiosity? Did they actually shoot while moving or was it more dragoon style where'd the would ride to battle or around the field and mostly get off to actually shoot?
    Where I read it, well I can't actually cite the source on that lol. But I have read about Teppo being used from horseback. Primarilly Masamune Date's forces. They would have functioned like Dragoon's I imagined. I think they were at the Battle of Osaka under Masamune Date.

    The Date and the Shimazu clan both had pretty good gunpowder units. Shimazu used to toss a Yumi bow archer in the unit to act as a sniper basically lol. XD As the Yumi was still more accurate.
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    It wasnt just Date and Shimazu. Samurai started to adopt teppo more and more during the end of the period. So they would move on horseback and fight on foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    It wasnt just Date and Shimazu. Samurai started to adopt teppo more and more during the end of the period. So they would move on horseback and fight on foot.
    Indeed! I only cited them for some of their unique takes on the weapon. The Hosokawa clan sponsored a smith in Kunimoto who made superb fire arms. :D And Sorin Otomo, the Catholic Daimyo in Kyushu had cannons in his keep. There were lots of gunpowder weapons being used and made, and lots of people were doing work to gain expertise in the field of firearms. A time period of change for sure.

    I hope the gameplay of Shogun 2 will reflect this. :D
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