Expansion?

**Boii** · 06-16-2010, 15:38

OK, when will be realized Asia Barbarorum ?

**Tanit** · 06-16-2010, 16:46

When someone decides to organize a sub-mod team. For now I'm just trying to encourage such an event.

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And just to tease, a few Faction overviews.

Mazakata: The Mazakata, also spelt Mazsakata ans Massaegetae, were a Scythian group of nomadic horsemen that lived north of Sogdiana in modern day Uzbekistan and Kazakstan. They first appeared in historical accounts as an enemy of the Persian Empire, stymiing all attempts by the Persians to expand north into their lands. By the time of the third century BC the Mazakata were in decline. Their great nation was dissolving and slowly being swallowed up by new steppe powers in the form of the Parni and Saka Rauka. Yet under a skilled leader it would not be to late to return to power and dominate the steppes once again.

Wusun: The Wusun were a nomdic steppe people who lived north of the Tarim basin. During the third century BC they were attacked by the much more powerful Xiongnu and driven further north, allowing the attention of the Xiongnu to turn to the Yuezhi. The Wusun later allied with the Xiongnu against the Yuezhi, and maintained a status as a subject state for some time. Eventually the Xiongnu empire began to weaken under pressure from China and the Wusun came into their own. It was reported by Chinese historians that the Wusun used mounted crossbowmen. (thx to GG2 for finding that one out)

Donghu: The Donghu were a coalition of a number of different steppe peoples north of China and Korea. Most notably among the coalition were the Xianbei and Wuhuan people. The Donghu coalition was eventually destroyed by the expansion of the Xiongnu. The Wuhuan remained in their ancenstral lands and fought both for and against the Han dynasty of China. The Xianbei invaded the Xiongnu when they began to weaken under pressure from China and replaced them as masters of the steppe.

Wa: Wa is the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese name for an early state in southern Japan. The status of this state in the third century BC is extremely unclear, though it is known that this is the period when the group of people that migrated from Korea and China began to make their imprint on southern Japan with what has since been called the 'Yayoi' culture. The Wa state was first identified by the Han Dynasty in its middle and later years through diplomatic contacts and tribute, though a possible reference to the Wa state as tributaries to the Yan state may exist in the third century BC.

**Tanit** · 06-17-2010, 11:32

Wow, going into Asian history is a continuously learning process for me. I'm always discovering that things aren't quite the way i thought of them the day before as I find new sources.

For example, I just realized that Satavahana in India didn't emerge until around 230 BC and the dominant power in that region was in fact the Chera empire. I also found out that Yelang is a latter Chinese name for the Kingdom and they called themselves Zangke in the 3rd century BC. GG2 pointed out that the Wusun can be more accurately called the Asman. And Gojoseon has an unneeded 'Go' used to differentiate it from a later Joseon state, thus its actually just Joseon. Dong-hu should actually be Tung-hu or something similar. The Chinese state of Wei can also be referred to as Liang. And thats just since my last post!

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**Darius** · 06-17-2010, 20:22

I've always found most Chinese history to be difficult to follow, though granted the only era I've ever read about was the Three Kingdoms Era. All the written records at the time seem to almost all be state sponsored by whatever warlord/king/minister of the region the scholar writing them resided in, and tend to have a way of always seriously sucking up to their benefactors in all their writings, making it thoroughly difficult to get an even relatively unbiased record of events. To add to it is the way Chinese scholars of the time seem to have ended up blending myth and legend with fact to make it almost impossible to tell what's really happening. I can understand extolling the martial prowess of your nations heroes, but saying they have near supernatural strength and speed is just kind of ridiculous.

**Ludens** · 06-17-2010, 21:14

Guys, this is the EB2 forum. Keep AtB discussion in the AtB thread.

**Tanit** · 06-18-2010, 01:15

Well thats not entirely fair. They are discussing the possibility of a sub-mod for EB2, not EB1, and the name of AtB only came up because it is a similar project.

If enough people express interest we can start a mod thread over in the EB1 modding sub-forum though...

And the Eastern map blank for you. A little distorted I'm afraid, but hey, cest la vie.

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**Mediolanicus** · 06-18-2010, 22:40

Originally Posted by Ludens

Guys, this is the EB2 forum. Keep AtB discussion in the AtB thread.

This thread's original purpose stopped on post nr.2.

Nothing wrong with daydreaming about a possible - and very, very interesting - submod for EB II.

Interesting information you've posted here, Tanit. Thank you for that.