Pick your power [Concluded]

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 07-08-2010, 01:07

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Awesome. I am SO GLAD we never scanned Romanic. Holy poop on a stick.

The mason claim would have saved him though if he got there in time.

Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan

So... that was a three or four hour long phase?

And three townies killed for you :D

Also I'm killing pizza every time I'm mafia from now in the first night phase.

Probably why he took bulletproof. If you'd had empowerer you could have got around it though.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-08-2010, 01:25

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Probably why he took bulletproof. If you'd had empowerer you could have got around it though.

THAT is exactly why I took bulletproof. I can be a real stinker at times, and I need to be wearing a bulletproof vest at all times.

I was NOT expecting to be the first choice (thought it would be nice, but I would have been happy with whatever), and being so high on the list and not being mafia, I knew that a night kill if I got anywhere near close to dangerous was inevitable. Only a bulletproof role could help. But empowerer, suicide bomber, or just plain old getting me lynched could have worked.

I am impressed Andres took the suicide bomber role just like he claimed. I forgot all about that, but if anyone would grab it he would. Or Khaan, frankly. I picture Khaan as a very dangerous unstable guy when he's playing mafia games. Probably not like that IRL but here, oh heck yeah.

Also: bleeping investigators up my butt on Night One ALL THE TIME!!!! AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH I JUST TOOK OUT A MAFIOSO LEAVE ME THE FLIP ALONE!!!!!

Metagamers!!! All of you!!!

**Renata** · 07-08-2010, 01:37

That was fun to watch. Kinda sorry you lost on short notice, Beskar, but it was bee-yoo-tiful to witness regardless. :) And you did make out ridiculously with the WOGs; short that you had no chance because even if you were genuine townie and the last mafia someone else, the town had to vote you today. You just can't let things like your vote for JHT slide by, or the mafia will do it all day long and twice on Sundays.

Fun game to watch, nice job all.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 07-08-2010, 01:38

Except arpeg...arpeg was going to catch beskar if he hadn't been killed. That would have been devestating for the mafia.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-08-2010, 02:01

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Except arpeg...arpeg was going to catch beskar if he hadn't been killed. That would have been devestating for the mafia.

Mmm.... that was a good murder choice. Romanic's early reveal that he and arpeg were mason was premature. I immediately called him on it to reverse it, and thank the beer gods he did. But I think Khaan saw it....

See Khaan, it wasn't spam at all, it really WAS green eggs and ham.

I am a ninja of nonsense. Even meaningless things can be deadly.

But Andres,

I swear my case on you wasn't total rubbish; if those who vote for you end up murdered, and everyone you're voting for is someone I know is innocent, then you're either a townie that's off the mark a bit too much for my taste or a mafia responsible for those deaths, and trying to get rid of power roles by the lynch itself. Both are dangerous, one needs to die immediately. Out of two days worth of activity, that was seriously the best case one could come up with based on no data besides voting patterns and kill patterns...... IMHO

I'm misunderstood.

**Double A** · 07-08-2010, 02:40

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

THAT is exactly why I took bulletproof. I can be a real stinker at times, and I need to be wearing a bulletproof vest at all times.

I was NOT expecting to be the first choice (thought it would be nice, but I would have been happy with whatever), and being so high on the list and not being mafia, I knew that a night kill if I got anywhere near close to dangerous was inevitable. Only a bulletproof role could help. But empowerer, suicide bomber, or just plain old getting me lynched could have worked.

I am impressed Andres took the suicide bomber role just like he claimed. I forgot all about that, but if anyone would grab it he would. Or Khaan, frankly. I picture Khaan as a very dangerous unstable guy when he's playing mafia games. Probably not like that IRL but here, oh heck yeah.

Also: bleeping investigators up my butt on Night One ALL THE TIME!!!! AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH I JUST TOOK OUT A MAFIOSO LEAVE ME THE FLIP ALONE!!!!!

Metagamers!!! All of you!!!

HEY! I was expecting the mafia to attack you on N1!

I was trying to be helpful

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-08-2010, 02:42

Originally Posted by Double A

HEY! I was expecting the mafia to attack you on N1!

I was trying to be helpful

That's true; you watching me is less about me and more about them. Withdrawn.

All for Pinman then.

**Double A** · 07-08-2010, 02:51

I metagamed the metagamers

**Pinman** · 07-08-2010, 03:52

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

That's true; you watching me is less about me and more about them. Withdrawn.

All for Pinman then.

Ironically enough, I wouldn`t have tracked you if you hadnt been so lucky on day 1. A bit useless though, ill admit.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-08-2010, 04:22

I'm still surprised anyone would think I'd lynch my own partner, day one, in a game this small with trackers and cops around.

For the record, and just so everyone knows: I would never lynch my own mafia partner on day one, because there is no upside for me in particular. It buys me exactly zero credibility. If it didn't end up sparing Beskar completely from my suspicions, and I think my reputation is at least as ruthless than his, then it certainly won't spare me from yours. More likely I'd attempt to save my partner because my big suspicious butt is going to end up dead eventually, and I need someone from my team to be able to survive after I'm gone. Rarely, if ever, would I lynch my own partner at any time. What I MIGHT do is make a big show of defending someone else so that when I do die, you think they are guilty. That's more plausible.

You almost expect the mafia to vote for each other at this point. It's like an unwritten rule. Better is to fall into whichever category is the largest: those who didn't vote for your partner, those who didn't vote at all, or those who did vote for your partner. Whichever is the largest gives you the least differentiation from the group and is therefore the easiest to hide in. If there's 20 people voting for someone, chances are, you will find at least one mafia in there blending in. Granted, here you have the added bonus of it was actually Beskar's vote that finished his own partner and was the deciding vote, which is more unusual, but mafia still do that if they are exceedingly ruthless. It's not unheard of. (See: Sasaki when he's at mafiascum, or so I've heard

) And you'll note Arpeg still scanned Beskar here, so.... yeah. It's expected of me that I would do that, and yet it is still so wrong. It spared me not from the scan, it spared Beskar not from the scan. We were both scanned up and down. It's not a tactic that should be expected to gain much in return, because over and over again you will find out it proves nothing, and history shows it isn't a reliable indicator at all, especially when the players involved aren't new.

I'm not saying it is a bad strategy.... it often works, even though the trick is getting older than dirt at this point. But I think it is wearing out its welcome and is being sniffed out more.