Restoring Wonders

[Foot]

No, I didn't mean those religious buildings. I meant the disappearance of regular or even unique (wonders) buildings if a city is looted.

I'm not talking about religious buildings, per se. Rather they are using the religion mechanic to ensure that certain buildings are destroyed on conquest. You make the unique building or wonder part of "relgion x", which no other faction is. Then whenever any faction of any other "religion" captures the settlements, those unique buildings are destroyed. As far as I'm aware, MTW2 does not destroy buildings during the capture of settlement except through that mechanic. In all other cases buildings are either left damaged or undamaged. If you can show me the code that says otherwise, I will be happy to look at it.

Foot

[Ichon]

If you sack in MTW2 isn't there a random chance of "devolving" a building? Not destroying outright, but instead of a "archery range" it becomes "practice range." So higher level buildings are essentially destroyed but some type of lower level building remains.

[Foot]

If you sack in MTW2 isn't there a random chance of "devolving" a building? Not destroying outright, but instead of a "archery range" it becomes "practice range." So higher level buildings are essentially destroyed but some type of lower level building remains.

No, that isn't possible in the game engine, afaik.

Foot

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Maybe we should get back on topic.....

Anyway, could this wonder feature possibly be worked into EB2 somehow? Should I (or anyone else willing to help me :P) start brainstorming good, historically reasonable restoration projects?

[Rahwana]

If you sack in MTW2 isn't there a random chance of "devolving" a building? Not destroying outright, but instead of a "archery range" it becomes "practice range." So higher level buildings are essentially destroyed but some type of lower level building remains.

and I know that in Teutonic campaign. Brhotel and other red light discrict buildings are destroyed if the Teutonic order captures that town, that code was in their campaign script.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

If you sack in MTW2 isn't there a random chance of "devolving" a building? Not destroying outright, but instead of a "archery range" it becomes "practice range." So higher level buildings are essentially destroyed but some type of lower level building remains.

I'm actually pretty sure that this does happen if you sack in MTW 2. I've played enough Vanilla when it first came out and some Broken Crescent and most recently TATW to remember this happening distinctly on numerous occasions. I'm not sure if it happens randomly but whenever you sack an advanced city with large barracks, stables, archery ranges, etc. they seem to devolve into a lower tier building. I can't say for sure if this also happens with other "infrastructure buildings" like markets and such but I'm 99% sure it happens with recruitment buildings.

[fightermedic]

I'm actually pretty sure that this does happen if you sack in MTW 2. I've played enough Vanilla when it first came out and some Broken Crescent and most recently TATW to remember this happening distinctly on numerous occasions. I'm not sure if it happens randomly but whenever you sack an advanced city with large barracks, stables, archery ranges, etc. they seem to devolve into a lower tier building. I can't say for sure if this also happens with other "infrastructure buildings" like markets and such but I'm 99% sure it happens with recruitment buildings.

i have never encounterd anything like this in med2
but i realy do like the idea of rebuilding famous wonders!

[stratigos vasilios]

Hey chaps, just a quick question... Would these factions have actually repaired the wonders if they could have? i.e. man power + money resources. Or would they have used the resources for other projects? I guess this is more a matter of opinion rather than one straight answer? (I hope this is relevant to the OP :S)

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Hey chaps, just a quick question... Would these factions have actually repaired the wonders if they could have? i.e. man power + money resources. Or would they have used the resources for other projects? I guess this is more a matter of opinion rather than one straight answer? (I hope this is relevant to the OP :S)

Good question vasilios, and I think it really would depend on the Faction Leader and the state of the nation. If he was a builder type, the nation had no major wars, and he had no intention on starting one. (i.e. the player chooses between funding his next war, or rebuilding the wonder.) And of course, the empire's funds would have to be in good shape to finance the project.

My example as to why I would suggest this is that Megas Alexandros was known to have wanted to restore several wonders, and IIRC started on one.

[Blxz]

If you wanted this to work either as a submod or whatever you would need to make a building chain to accurately represent the cost. I have no idea how long a building chain can be but make it as long as possible and have each stage be quite short. Such as a 1 turn, 20 000mnai step that needs to be built half a dozen times or so until the restoration is complete. Maybe more if possible. Rather than a single 20 turn building at 20 times the cost. This allows gradual restorations when funds permit rather than just saving 500,000mnai or only restoring it when you have conquered half the world and have a massive income.

This would actually be nice and would add a bit of flavour to the game, little personal challenges you could work towards, and having to make the choice to cut back spending in order to finance a bunch of buildings. As it is, once you get past a critical mass this game just becomes unloseable and needs a bit of roleplay to keep it reasonable.