The Big New Yorker- [TBNY] concept thread

[johnhughthom]

You mention support votes, I've seen them mentioned in the rules of games at CFC but can't remember ever seeing them used never mind actively influence a voting result. How would they work in this?

[Diamondeye]

Me and Seon would like to claim the SK roles

Sounds interesting!

[Subotan]

*Takes off Chinese Communist hat and puts on his Yankees cap*

Yes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You mention support votes, I've seen them mentioned in the rules of games at CFC but can't remember ever seeing them used never mind actively influence a voting result. How would they work in this?

Support votes:

These are like negative votes. They are often used to spare someone from a lynch at the last moment when they are forced to reveal they are a special role (like an investigator or doctor or something). A few people switch their lynch votes to support votes, and all of a sudden the tally against a person has dropped by six. That can very much influence the vote.

It could be used by unscrupulous (read: all) politicians to save certain mafiosi from death... for a price of course. Everything costs money, especially votes.


Support votes are in green and counter lynch votes.

Example:

Johnhughthom: (2) Askthepizzaguy, Diamondeye.

Unvote: Johnhughthom, Support Johnhughthom.

Johnhughthom: (0) Askthepizzaguy, Diamondeye.

See? Went from 2 votes to zero based on just my support. Worth a penny or two?

[Double A]

Pizza, you had me at the pizza.

[Zack]

You mention support votes, I've seen them mentioned in the rules of games at CFC but can't remember ever seeing them used never mind actively influence a voting result. How would they work in this?

The reason people never use support votes is because it's usually better to just vote for someone else instead of supporting (for various reasons).

[Pinman]

This just looks incredible.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This just looks incredible.

What about the game? Stop ogling the pizza, man! There's a game underneath that!


I know it is incredibly delicious, but you must resist. The pizza is a lie.

[Double A]

I wish all lies tasted that good.

[Khazaar]

I enjoyed the NYC pizza, delicious... mhmmmhm. The only worry I have is that all these options are going to make it hard to focus on scumhunting, but this looks rather like Capo upgraded anyways. Maybe the focus is not town vs. maifa but rather who becomes Capo di tutti Capi.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I enjoyed the NYC pizza, delicious... mhmmmhm. The only worry I have is that all these options are going to make it hard to focus on scumhunting, but this looks rather like Capo upgraded anyways. Maybe the focus is not town vs. maifa but rather who becomes Capo di tutti Capi.

Well not everyone will need to focus on scumhunting.


I haven't fully explained the game yet but much of it will be, for many players, working towards building your scum family and forming alliances to achieve power and wealth. The mafia families may not all want to destroy each other immediately, perhaps their first goal is grabbing up as many players as they can and building a thriving business, and then trying to protect those interests with the usual mafia muscle.

Secondly, there will be townspeople who can do down a rather neutral path, focusing on gaining political power and gaining votes, and then selling those votes to the mafia or to dedicated townies seeking justice. Such townies may have mafia contacts and, for a price, would be willing to look the other way. Sure, this means hardcore townies won't like them very much, but it's unlikely to be a move done by a mafia Don himself, so such politicians are not necessarily the first target for vigilantes and so forth. Or maybe they are, and the mafia would be willing to protect them from harm. You see, there's a lot of backscratching between organized crime, business, and politics.

Thirdly, people who have chosen to be dedicated scumhunters will likely be forming vigilante squads and detective groups and some protection on investigators. So those people will be more focused on scumhunting than anyone else. Maybe they can get the job done.

The focus is still on town versus mafia, but there's also a focus on personal achievement, personal power, personal wealth, and the power and influence of your team or mafia family. What might be more pressing is the threat the serial killers pose. You might even see some town and mafia cooperation on that point. I can't predict what will happen.

When I go into the business aspect of the game, and the political aspect of the game, and the money aspect of the game, alternative objectives become clearer for the town and mafia. I'll talk about that soon.

[Double A]

The reason people never use support votes is because it's usually better to just vote for someone else instead of supporting (for various reasons).

Unless there isn't a clear second?

[Captain Blackadder]

In though I must say that pizza looks horrible soo cheesy

[Double A]

CB, it doesn't matter what a pizza looks like as long as it tastes good.

However, pineapple and ham have been known to make a pizza look tastier...