Rabbit Season

[miotas]

Living things must die for me to live, debating the morality of which living things and whether I kill it personally or get a farmer/meatworks to kill it for me is splitting hairs. The economic and ecological points have merit however.

[Vladimir]

Living things must die for me to live, debating the morality of which living things and whether I kill it personally or get a farmer/meatworks to kill it for me is splitting hairs.

Puneriffic.

[Louis VI the Fat]

There is a moral dimension to eating meat. So I think one ought to be aware where meat comes from.

Ham does not grow in the frozen foods section of your supermarket. It grows on real, living cows and needs to be sliced off of them, often causing the cow much distress.


If one is unaware of this fact, needless maltreatment of animals looms.

I do not think it means one has to be prepared to personally kill animals to eat meat. It's gross, bloody. (Not to mention, a profession I think is best left to professionals, or people who know exactly what they're doing) I am all for transplanting human organs, but it does not mean I am willing to cut out a kidney from a human corpse. Unless in case of emergency, which is, like the odds of me having to kill for food, not very likely to happen.

[Samurai Waki]

For some odd reason I was doing a quick lurk, and saw this thread. Anywho, I used to raise rabbits for meat, (used to be in 4H) and while I've used the neck breaking technique there is an equally humane and quick way to do it as well (as long as you've got the hardware). Which I'm sure you can scrape together in no time.

The problem with chopping it's head off, or bludgeoning it with a hammer, or even shooting it, is it leaves a small margin of error for painful death, and a bloody mess to boot.

Here's a quick "educational video" that shows the method I used to great effect. (Warning: Involves Rabbit Death)

Good Luck Lemur

[Rob The Bastard]

Wow... re the video... can't argue that wasn't swift enough. Very basic hardware, but about as effective as you can get.

[Vladimir]

For some odd reason I was doing a quick lurk, and saw this thread. Anywho, I used to raise rabbits for meat, (used to be in 4H) and while I've used the neck breaking technique there is an equally humane and quick way to do it as well (as long as you've got the hardware). Which I'm sure you can scrape together in no time.

The problem with chopping it's head off, or bludgeoning it with a hammer, or even shooting it, is it leaves a small margin of error for painful death, and a bloody mess to boot.

Here's a quick "educational video" that shows the method I used to great effect. (Warning: Involves Rabbit Death)

Good Luck Lemur

Interesting. Reminds me of killing chickens. Although my uncle liked finding new ways to remove their heads. Very disturbing. Blood EVERYWHERE!

[InsaneApache]

Interesting. Reminds me of killing chickens. Although my uncle liked finding new ways to remove their heads. Very disturbing. Blood EVERYWHERE!

This is correct. Pater used to keep leghorns (I know I laughed as well!) a few years ago. For some reason, even unbeknown to himself, he decided to forsake the time honoured way of wringing the chucks neck and plumped for the hatchett one fine day.

Result. A garage that looked like a scene from a Jason/Micheal/Freddie film set. Blood literally everywhere. Very messy.

Though Americans have a weird obession with calling beef burgers, "hamburgers".

Dear oh dear, oh dear. Where to start?

[Vladimir]

Dear oh dear, oh dear. Where to start?

I'd start with french fries.

[miotas]

This is correct. Pater used to keep leghorns (I know I laughed as well!) a few years ago. For some reason, even unbeknown to himself, he decided to forsake the time honoured way of wringing the chucks neck and plumped for the hatchett one fine day.

Result. A garage that looked like a scene from a Jason/Micheal/Freddie film set. Blood literally everywhere. Very messy.

My nanna had chooks when I was knee high, and I always thought it was funny how they kept running around after they were dead.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Not the same thing, Ham is cured Pork from the rump of the pig. But it is clear with what you mean.

Though Americans have a weird obession with calling beef burgers, "hamburgers".

Dear oh dear, oh dear. Where to start?

Louis will no doubt appreciate the inherent class divide built into the English language. Words for livestock are generally Saxon in origin (pig, sheep, cow) since the live animals were tended by the peasantry. However, the vocabulary for the prepared meats eaten by the aristocracy is derived from the French (pork, mutton, beef).

[Pannonian]

Take your pick between a hammer, a baseball bat, a chainsaw or a samurai sword. Put the rabbit in a vice, then take care of it.

[Beskar]

Might only be a coincidence, but Crazed Rabbit has disappeared from this forum since this thread.

[Vladimir]

There is a moral dimension to eating meat. So I think one ought to be aware where meat comes from.

Ham does not grow in the frozen foods section of your supermarket. It grows on real, living cows and needs to be sliced off of them, often causing the cow much distress.


If one is unaware of this fact, needless maltreatment of animals looms.

I do not think it means one has to be prepared to personally kill animals to eat meat. It's gross, bloody. (Not to mention, a profession I think is best left to professionals, or people who know exactly what they're doing) I am all for transplanting human organs, but it does not mean I am willing to cut out a kidney from a human corpse. Unless in case of emergency, which is, like the odds of me having to kill for food, not very likely to happen.

OK, I find this offensive. No self-respecting Frenchman should eat frozen ham. I'm shocked at the insinuation that it is in the frozen food section. And, in less there is an advanced grafting technique involved, or that Europe is genetically altering it's cows, I'm quite sure that you can't slice ham off of a live cow; or any cow for that matter.

[Cyclops]

Oops didn't see Wakazashi's much more thorough and practical video above.

Re the moral dimension: I think killing living things is a form of violence. Some forms of violence strengthen the actor (eg exercise, sports, constructive disputation, butchery for subsistence) but some erode the soul. Uneccessary cruelty is corrosive to the soul and most people cannot commit acts without lessening themselves.

This sounds very airy fairy and I have only come to these views after the age of 40 as my blood has cooled. I am ashamed to say that I saw Avatar again and realised the blue alien was saying the same thing.

... I'm quite sure that you can't slice ham off of a live cow; or any cow for that matter.

Sadly enough some meat prepared and labelled as ham is in fact lamb or beef. Check your labels carefully.

[Fragony]

ahum, ham from a cow? Might be language thingie but ham is pork?

As for morality, nothing wrong with killing an animal for food, but I simply can't. Did plenty business with butchers, all types, if he knows what he's doing it's very quik, but it takes practise. Leave it to the pro's, trial and error isn't needed, it's a cruel learning process.

[Beskar]

ahum, ham from a cow? Might be language thingie but ham is pork?

Not the same thing, Ham is cured Pork from the rump of the pig. But it is clear with what you mean.

Though Americans have a weird obession with calling beef burgers, "hamburgers".