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    Default Re: Difference between cosensual sex and rape... in the eyes of too conservative law

    well, time to go to that office again, hope we'll get something good in the way...

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    I'm not a lawyer, but if you can prove (with witnesses, text messages, photos, emails etc) that they were in a relationship for a while, and that they were seen together by witnesses (who can testify/swear an affidavit) being a little affectionate (so as to not get arrested for public indecency), that might suggest that the relationship was consensual. Maybe messages about how much she likes him etc may be helpful.

    Many Australians don't have a high opinion of the judicial system in Indonesia, but with a case in which neither side has any influence/friends or relos with influence, and which is not used by a group to highlight an issue, it shouldn't be too bad. But what you say about the state appointed lawyer is a serious problem for your friend, as there must be a vast number of things she could do to obstruct the case or make him look guilty. Don't suppose you can complain that she is biased/unsuitable and get a different one?

    Sounds like he needs all the help he can get, good luck.
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    Out of curiosity: How a "finding a condom" can g to a rape case? Every bdy who did wear this kind of things, even in a very consual way, take take, calm and concetration. NOT stress of a rape... And it is NOT something you can wear in case of...
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    The condom proves nothing in and of itself. (Not that it was rape, nor that it wasn't; and depending on the state of the condom it cannot even be proved that there was any sex at all.)
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    My uncles a lawyer I talked to him. First off if his defense attorney is as bad as you say then appeal for a new lawyer on grounds of incompetence or improper representation. Once you have a decent lawyer you have to build a morality case against the girl. You need to create an aura for the jury of this girl as being a slut. You need to contact the authorities and see what exactly occured with the "investigation" luckily for you if all they have is an affidavit or testimony from the parents, your friend and the girl it becomes he said she said. Furthermore it may not be admittable for the parents to speak on the daughters behalf as it creates an unfair bias against the defendant and may even be hearsay.

    Try to get to local papers and stir up some indignation and tell your friends parents that's ridiculous not telling them.

    If everything you say is true he should get off scot free. If you want to get really down and dirty hire a private lawyer and file a defamation suit immeadiately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    Try to get to local papers and stir up some indignation and tell your friends parents that's ridiculous not telling them.
    The parents hate him, apparently, and the papers will give a story about a rapist. Both bad ideas.
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    Unless the paper has high journalistic standards the most likely story they'd run with would be less than helpful. Definitely don't want to get the religious hardliners involved, so best to keep it quiet.
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