Difference between cosensual sex and rape... in the eyes of too conservative law

[aimlesswanderer]

Good news, and I hope that things do work themselves out. Am I ever glad I live here where religion is much less of a concern.

[Brenus]

I am glad to live a life where religion has no place at all.

[Rahwana]

yeah, yesterday moring, the trial was for hearing the witness, and thankfully, that was closed one and only 4 of us attend that, after we decide that CW and 1 other friend that was not an adult yet (well, in sense of sexual experience), shouldn't mixed up with us there (another one act as the car driver now), because this trial will definitely discredit everyone who attend them as witness (as most fanatics will presumed that you are immoral brats, so let's the real immorals took the consequences, afterall that was just a temporary stigma, especially for males like us and we're doing that for a friend ). The result are actually mixed, the trial was delayed until next week, but the judge seems to be fine with what we said, and there is no objection occured in the defense given...

[Idaho]

The real problem here seems to be the taboo against young people having safe pre-marital sex. Get rid of that, and you won't have a problem.

[rory_20_uk]

Idaho, whilst I completely agree with you that the outdated, archaic, frankly nonsensical collection of customs and practices we for some reason respectfully call "religion" is in this case, as in oh so many the root cause it ain't going to shift any time soon.

[aimlesswanderer]

This is what happens when modernity runs headlong into centuries old societal values.

Maybe when your kids are at uni things will be very different, given the fast rate of change.

[ajaxfetish]

This is what happens when modernity runs headlong into centuries old societal values.

Maybe when your kids are at uni things will be very different, given the fast rate of change.

Not necessarily a good thing. It could mean their kids will have to wear burkhas when they go to college.

Ajax

[Skullheadhq]

Oh, for a moment I thought CW was mentioning you, Sonic.
If my friend was accused of rape I would deny all allegations and constantly, constantly ask for the proof that he actually raped her, like bruises of some sort, without evidence he won't be convicted for anything.
You should also keep an eye on the girl, maybe she (or her parents) will inflict injuries upon her, and when that happens and they use that as 'proof', it's game over. You should also seriously try to find the others she slept with, that way the joke about 'our sweet little, pious girl who would never have premarital sex' would be over and your buddies' story will sound much more realistic than hers'. If you know her email, try to fill in the security question with some social engeneering and look for clues of sexual partners, that's where I would start.
You should maybe even ask her friends to testify, or just call them to the stand. They should probably know if she had previous sexual partners. Hope this helps!

[Cute Wolf]

and the statistics then lied with calling Indonesia "the biggest muslim country", actually there is more atheists than muslims

not really true, despite that, where is another country with more than 70 million muslims? yeah, all we know that it was common knowledge that muslim percentage here are marked up, but they still the largest one in the world, unless India had more muslims or every arab nations populations got doubled suddenly.

Oh, for a moment I thought CW was mentioning you, Sonic.
If my friend was accused of rape I would deny all allegations and constantly, constantly ask for the proof that he actually raped her, like bruises of some sort, without evidence he won't be convicted for anything.
You should also keep an eye on the girl, maybe she (or her parents) will inflict injuries upon her, and when that happens and they use that as 'proof', it's game over. You should also seriously try to find the others she slept with, that way the joke about 'our sweet little, pious girl who would never have premarital sex' would be over and your buddies' story will sound much more realistic than hers'. If you know her email, try to fill in the security question with some social engeneering and look for clues of sexual partners, that's where I would start.
You should maybe even ask her friends to testify, or just call them to the stand. They should probably know if she had previous sexual partners. Hope this helps!

well yeah, that case is allready gone into straight conclusion now, our friend will be sooner or later declared innocent , but the trial is delayed again to hear the objection of the "victim", because the prosecutor allready demand our friend to be freed and declared innocent...

gosh, I start to pity that girl, she was utterly completely doomed....
BTW, Sonic also had past affairs with her... and she was now a launghingstock between most of us, everyone who had slept with her made a long commentary about her... But at last, that wasn't her fault at all, that was her parent's fault... yeah, but it was now backfire on them... dammit, those over-zealous religious parents...

[Skullheadhq]

That's good to hear, what will happen to the girl, will she be sued for slander or something?