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    Default Death of Lech Kaczynski - historical consequences

    Its first time in polish history when so many important for country people dies same time.
    I wonder how Poland overcome this problem. Don't expect big complication (constitution is prepared
    for such situations) but some problems can occur.
    This seems to be best place for notification of this fact because we are talking about history here.
    And now history is being written on our eyes.
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    I say there will be very few meaningful consequences, apart from the possible passing of a law banning such a great number of Poland's political and military leaders from traveling in the same conveyance again. Poland's democratic system is strong and vibrant, and this will not change that.

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    Default Re: Death of Lech Kaczynski - historical consequences

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    I say there will be very few meaningful consequences, apart from the possible passing of a law banning such a great number of Poland's political and military leaders from traveling in the same conveyance again. Poland's democratic system is strong and vibrant, and this will not change that.
    We have such a protocol in the UK.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    A catastrophe for Poland, and my condolances to all.

    A tragic event which Poland will nevertheless overcome with some ease, continuing its rapid development. Modern Poland is sturdy at its core, economically, politcally. The institutions are stable, the persons heading them can be replaced, despite the obvious loss.




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    As a point of order:

    The disaster is a historical event, but not history. I'd rather the political angle be discussed in the designated Backroom thread. Do you have Backroom access, Krook?


    I'll leave the thread open for now, considering the tragic occassion, to allow people to have their say. If it gets too political, I'll close it. If it gets disrespecful, I have a fine opportunity to learn how that infraction system works.
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    Default Re: Death of Lech Kaczynski - historical consequences

    Actually this is historical even.
    Political too, but mostly historical in my opinion.
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    Default Re: Death of Lech Kaczynski - historical consequences

    Quote Originally Posted by KrooK View Post
    Actually this is historical even.
    Political too, but mostly historical in my opinion.
    Do share with us some of your thoughts. I asked this thread not turn too political, but I noted that you do not access the Backroom. It would be a shame if that means we remain deprived of your thoughts about this tragic event.

    Do you think Kaczynski and his wife should be buried in the Wawel, or rather not?
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    At the beginning I have to tell that I voted Kaczynski during election at 2005. Later I regret that. His first 2 years were terrible. Not only because of his fault, but officers of his bureau were terrible. So many people (especially into western europe) started thinking that he is fascist or something.
    But later much changed. He reorganised his office, ordered some of his advisors to think instead of tell. And result were visible. For last year I was pround I voted him.
    Kaczynski as a person always had a vision of Poland. Very similar to Pilsudski's vision. Strong state which cares about its citizens - especially the ones who fight for Poland. Before he was president of Warsaw for 10 years government could not find a place for Museum of Warsaw Uprising 1944. After he won election suddenly all the problems dissapeared. Now Museum is one of the most interesting in Poland.
    We have to remember that many of newspapers hated him. Mostly because he was fighting corruption. Especially very strong newspaper "Wyborcza" all the time attacked him. No one really knows why.Maybe because he never agreed on situation when former agents of communist
    special services were trying to rule our county. Maybe becuase he was always for very strong punishments for pedofiles,
    drug dealers and criminals with white collars. I don't know. Actually it was Wyborcza who started all this dispute \concerning Wawel as a tomb of president. Its very very strange that great newspaper gives 3 pages for news about small demonstration (200 men).
    Most Poles accept Wawel. I think that its very good place for tomb of president whom died serving his country.
    In the end there is something else that Wyborcza seems to forgot (or not want to remember). Much more people know what was Katyn warcrime.
    In my opinion he is worth enough to have tomb at Wawel. And trust me - 95 % Poles too. Maybe into western media it looks other but
    sadly Wyborcza newspaper is really very strong.
    John Thomas Gross - liar who want put on Poles responsibility for impassivity of American Jews during holocaust

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