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    When will this madness stop? Are all Europeans becoming crazy? What about our freedom? Can we no longer wear what we want? A disgrace! These violations of basic human rights have to stop. If we don't act, the whole of the European continent will be ruled by a totalitarian regime!

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    Tourists face £250 bikini fines at Spanish holiday resort

    The resort of Salou on the Costa Daurada, south of Barcelona, has become the first place in Spain to ban shirtless and bikini-clad tourists in a bid to clean up its reputation, which has been badly damaged after becoming a haven for drunken British students.


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    Not what you expected, I guess
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    Since the tourists aren't citizens of the country I have no problem with this. You get rights in your own country, anywhere else you are a guest.
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    Kinda poor taste to wear bath clothing in a restaurant, their country their rules anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    Can we no longer wear what we want?
    In public? no you can´t....and it is that way in any civilized society.

    so the spanish don´t want to have their lunch sitting next to a disgusting looking moron who insists on walking around bare-chested everywhere....I am shocked....really.
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    Banning "drinking alcohol on the streets or having sex on the beach" makes sense. But, too be honest you just know this is going to hurt tourism for the town. Many tourists won't know the rules and will be hit with fines. Thus they will get annoyed and have a negative experience. A customer who has a negative experience is 13 times more likely to mention it than those who have a good experience, and they tell 50 people on average of their bad experience. Also, travel agencies are sure to mention this as a sticking point when selling package deals. All this will see a marked decline in tourism. And there will be plenty of other towns who will willingly take the money of those tourists.

    All in all a bad move that will hurt the town in the long run. Makes me want to laugh and cry.

    Barcalona's move is much better, running a campaign to try and change habits is much less knee-jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Banning "drinking alcohol on the streets or having sex on the beach" makes sense. But, too be honest you just know this is going to hurt tourism for the town. Many tourists won't know the rules and will be hit with fines. Thus they will get annoyed and have a negative experience. A customer who has a negative experience is 13 times more likely to mention it than those who have a good experience, and they tell 50 people on average of their bad experience. Also, travel agencies are sure to mention this as a sticking point when selling package deals. All this will see a marked decline in tourism. And there will be plenty of other towns who will willingly take the money of those tourists.

    All in all a bad move that will hurt the town in the long run. Makes me want to laugh and cry.

    Barcalona's move is much better, running a campaign to try and change habits is much less knee-jerk.
    Follow the money.

    USA resort towns that crack down on the party/Spring break type of client do so to INCREASE the appeal of the resort to family tourism -- who are usually better spenders and pump more in the local economy.

    I suspect that something along this line is what's happening.
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    Sorry but I too agree with this.

    "Thin end of the wedge" arguments end up with it not being fair that couples aren't allowed to undertake consensual bondage / orgies in public as to ban it would be infringing their right to public indecency...

    Their country, their rules. I just wish it was our country, our rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Banning "drinking alcohol on the streets or having sex on the beach" makes sense. But, too be honest you just know this is going to hurt tourism for the town.
    Guess you never been there, the behaviour of some tourists, Dutch and English I am talking to you, is simply disgusting. You are visiting the place, is it so much to ask to have some manners.

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    Their country, their rules
    Exactly. Andres as a visitor to a country you have to respect the population's wishes, but if you want to grant Muslims Belgian nationality they are part of the population, and you have to respect their wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrddraal View Post
    Exactly. Andres as a visitor to a country you have to respect the population's wishes, but if you want to grant Muslims Belgian nationality they are part of the population, and you have to respect their wishes.
    Where does the article say it is limited to foreign tourists? Do you think that a Spanish lady wearing a bikini in a Salou restaurant will not get a fine because she is of Spanish nationality while a Dutch lady will get fined because she is not Spanish? And if it would indeed be that way, you're perfectly fine with it?

    Why do you think only visitors need to respect the populations' wishes, but the inhabitants themselves don't?



    Are you the same person as the one who was outraged because the burqa got banned?

    For the record: I agree with the bikini ban in Salou; I opened this thread as a parody on the burqua threads and also because I was curious about the reactions of those who oppose a burqua ban. Surprisingly, they are ok with banning a bikini, even if the only reason to ban it, is because some people deem it undecent when you wear it on the market. I wonder why banning a bikini is ok, but banning a burqua is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    If we don't act, the whole of the European continent will be ruled by a totalitarian regime!
    i thought we were already headed in that direction...........?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    When will this madness stop? Are all Europeans becoming crazy? What about our freedom? Can we no longer wear what we want? A disgrace! These violations of basic human rights have to stop. If we don't act, the whole of the European continent will be ruled by a totalitarian regime!
    Didn't you want to ban the burka?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Didn't you want to ban the burka?
    It isn't really that hard to see the differene between these positions, unless you really want to narrow the discussion down to a mere piece of cloth.

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    Beskar is being sarcastic I believe. He's British isn't he? You have to humour us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrddraal View Post
    Beskar is being sarcastic I believe. He's British isn't he? You have to humour us.
    Beskie is being a smartipants and he shall be suitably pwnd, that is very British.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Beskie is being a smartipants and he shall be suitably pwnd, that is very British.
    Translated: Beskar should be wary about his threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    When will this madness stop? Are all Europeans becoming crazy? What about our freedom? Can we no longer wear what we want? A disgrace! These violations of basic human rights have to stop. If we don't act, the whole of the European continent will be ruled by a totalitarian regime!

    Link to Article.

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    The resort of Salou on the Costa Daurada, south of Barcelona, has become the first place in Spain to ban shirtless and bikini-clad tourists in a bid to clean up its reputation, which has been badly damaged after becoming a haven for drunken British students.


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    Not what you expected, I guess
    How could scantily clad and drunken bikini clad babes be a detriment? Did they ask the young male residents of Salou their opinion? Me thinks nay.

    Post a "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" sign where needed and allow the rest of us to enjoy the scenery.

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    Scratches Salou off the vacation itinerary.
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    I have learnt lots of things on this thread:

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    ... and Idaho can use a broad brush to make sweeping statements with no thought to context.

    Oh. That isn't really something new, is it?

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    What if a female wore a bikini over a burqua? Legal in Belgium? Spain?
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    she'd get a slap round the muffin for unjustly tempting our lascivious imaginations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    What if a female wore a bikini over a burqua? Legal in Belgium? Spain?
    Or: a burqa over a bikini?
    And in the interest of gender “equality”: what if a man wore such garments?
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