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Unvote, Imprison: Mr THIS.

Surely a better option than exiling/murdering someoe without cause.

Fine.

Unimprison; Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

Now can we not kill somebody random?

I am sorry but since you all are so eager to have me killed without any cause, surely an imprisonment seems to be a better option, as concluded with all our other targets? or am I that special ?

Oh good he's back.

Hi.

imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

Renata-

It is possible that chaotix engineered the whole thing. It may be possible that he knows someone who's leaking information or that the mafia discovered chaotix' role night one. It may be possible that the mafia got lazy or were inhibited by role or some other game structure. I simply stated that, in my opinion, the odds were more likely that the imprisonment of arp was not directly related to the absence of a kill. I personally find it a bit odd that there have not been multiple killers yet- the game, I would think, especially given we already know there is a protector(n1), and role blocker(chaotix), that there would be a somewhat high number of mafia or otherwise anti-town forces to balance the pro-town forces out. My best guess is that the anti-town forces have some kind of "extra-cirricular" abilities that don't directly relate to killing, and they have been focusing more on these the first couple nights.

I'm not exactly what imprisoning someone tells us at this point, it only clears someone as innocent if there is only one killer, which I doubt with our numbers. Yaseikhaan sums it up well. If he is right, imprisoning the right people won't even give us feedback that we are right. We should be lynching someone. What I said earlier should be taken more as a "Why God Emperor?"

There's no private chat or off-board reveals allowed in this game, so leaks are a bit difficult to hypothesize. The mafia discovering Chaotix' role night one is plausible, but there being any relationship between that and what happened between Chaotix and ArpTHIS is not so much -- they'd have to be quite sure Chaotix would block ArpTHIS in order to get any use out of it at all, and that goes right back to the leak issue. IMO either Chaotix did it himself as a way to get townie cred for his mafia-roleblocker role; or it was coincidence. (I think ArpTHIS is a townie.)

Sure, there are several possibilities.

Actually you said "accident or setup". You didn't rank the likelihood.

Romanic "protected" himself, or?

You're assuming by this that Chaotix and Romanic are both pro-town. Especially now we are aware there are neutral roles as well as mafia, that is not a given.

This is entirely possible.


I said I found your conclusions plausible once I understood them, and I had even unvoted you -- what's the point of this post? You're defending yourself where no defense was needed.

Anyone have a vote count?

Imprison ArpTHIS: 5 (ArpTHIS, Split, johnhughtom, Pinman, civplayah)
Vote God Emperor: 4 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus, TheFlax)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)
Imprison Chaotix: 1 (God Emperor)

Indeed.

Called it a hunch, to be precise, that it was one of the two.

Re-read the writeup. Romanic is pretty clearly protected by someone else.



The protector, yes, that would be a bit of an odd role for an anti-town role. Chaotix could easily be anti-town, but it seems quite risky for him to reveal so early if he was. So I would hazard that he's probably, at worst, neutral.


Thought I ought to clarify for the rest of the players, since you decided to clarify my post for me(which you did a mostly good job of). Your series of posts did strike me as quite odd though, going from hyper-aggressive to suddenly backing down- the very thing you accused me of yourself.

Seems more than fair on town's part. I appreciate that town hasn't right-out lynched me.

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

All right.

I didn't accuse you of being hyper-aggressive; I accused you of opportunistically jumping on a chance to give an earlier vote some unearned weight by associating it with Reenk's accusation, then hedging your bets in a scummy way when forced to back down. But you didn't hedge your bets in a scummy way, so there was no reason to keep my vote. By itself, the re-accusation of Chaotix means nothing.

Any particular reason you pick on a triviality of wording as a reason to cast doubt on someone?

Any particular reason you... Nah, I'm not gonna bite.

Oh please do, please do. (I'm up to my ears in Lylat review; I could use the entertainment.)

I can't exactly take part in my own lynching, can I?

imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

There have to be better options tomorrow.

Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

To cast a vote today.

Unvote, Imprison: Arpeg

I'm going with the flow.

Now, the mafia is either going to remain silent to make Arpeg look guilty (or actually is Arpeg), OR they're going to attack me. We're all dwarves here, there's gotta be a protector out there. If you think my job's important, you might protect me tonight.

Also, Arpeg- I assume if you're that cautious of revealing your role then you're probably one of the three princes. On the condition that your name is Trian, Bhelen, or Duran Aeducan, then I would accept your hand in marriage should you choose to offer it to me. If you don't have to investigate me, then you won't have to bother with it.

And if you're not one of the princes, don't bother with me.

People in jail cannot be targeted by abilities, that could explain why there was no kill last night: Arpeg was targeted to be killed, but they couldn't do it because he was in jail.

Seems plausible. As much as Arpeg being the killer.

So, Chaotix's ability, and the jail option are not only a roleblock, but also a protection.

Well either way we seem to benefit from sending arpeg to jail.
Unvote; imprison: Arpeg

A little over one hour remains for votes and bids.

The current bids stand at sixteen gold for the Clasp, ten gold for the Ring. :3

Vote: God Emperor

Susipicious minds.

The phase ended at 9pm GMT, thus I will have to discount both Beskar's vote and the late bid I received a few hours ago.

However, following a serious spate of broken rules, QuickTopic mistakes and more, I'm in half a mind of whether or not to outright end the game now because I feel that everything's in tatters currently... for me, things couldn't be going any worse in terms of the behind-the-scenes stuff.

I believed that I had made the rules crystal clear and that any PM featuring QT links stressed that you must be careful what name you're posting under, and still rules are broken and mistakes are made... if this was any standard game, I wouldn't mind, but in this game every single role has an impact and has it's enemies/allies, and these occurances are tearing apart the foundations I've worked hard at for the last two months.

This is my first small-sized game and only my second overall, and I'm really at a loss with how to proceed with this now; I feel as though the game is ruined. :/

Sorry to hear Secura , hope it's salvageable.

If the situation warrants, consider mass modkilling offending parties, even if it greatly lessens the game's length it would still be preferable to abandoning it, and it could be worked into the storyline.

Indeed have a darkspwan incursion into Orzammer and have them all killed.

You've been doing an excellent job, Secura. It would be an absolute shame to see this game have the plug pulled on it. Personally, I would advise trucking on. If disciplinary action must be taken against certain players, do it, but please, don't let the rest bear the punishment as well by ending the game. Even if you feel like the game has been "sabotaged" by the actions of certain players, we'll all still enjoy the experience more than we would if the game was ended, and, I think, you'll get more out of hosting the game by seeing it through to the end.

Thanks guys; I've really got to speak with the offending party and gauge the extent of the damage caused really, but I'm hoping that it's nothing major; it just means that one or two players now have the identity of two major roles... but if those roles die prematurely, it's of no fault but their own, no reason to punish everyone else for it as you've said. :3

I have work in a few hours and won't get home until 3:30PM GMT or so; I'll be working on the end of phase writeup as soon as I get back. It seems that, in the furore surrounding ArpeggiateTHIS' roleblock, you have all forgotten that there was a warhammer to vote on too... for shame! :P

If they do screw up so horribly bad that the game is unplayable... maybe we could restart or something without them?

And anyway, I'm gonna be gone Fri-Mon, so don't freak out over my gone-ness.

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