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antisocialmunky 03:05 07-12-2010
Can we have hairier people in EBII? I can't be the only one who is disturbed by nippleless, body-waxed Gauls. no:

Unless people were less hairy and nipples were pinker back then that is ;).

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Snite 04:43 07-12-2010
In the description for the Soap Maker it's explained that the Gauls and Germans used soap heavy with lye to get rid of their body hair, so it's actually correct to have hairless 'barbarians' as opposed to the flea infested, grimy, and excessively hairy barbarians of hollywood.

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stratigos vasilios 05:15 07-12-2010
Hrmmm hairy chests would give me something to relate to...

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Apázlinemjó 09:50 07-12-2010
Originally Posted by stratigos vasilios:
Hrmmm hairy chests would give me something to relate to...
Chewbacca.

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stratigos vasilios 10:22 07-12-2010
True, I am from the Star Wars universe...

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B-Wing 11:15 07-12-2010
Originally Posted by Snite:
In the description for the Soap Maker it's explained that the Gauls and Germans used soap heavy with lye to get rid of their body hair, so it's actually correct to have hairless 'barbarians' as opposed to the flea infested, grimy, and excessively hairy barbarians of hollywood.
Wow, I almost never read the building descriptions in EB, and I realize now that I've missed out on some interesting information as a result. Thank you for pointing this out. I do remember reading the description for one of the palace upgrades for Hayasdan (which I probably misspelled) which was rather funny; it marveled at the quantity of lamps rumored to lie within the palace.

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Cute Wolf 12:12 07-12-2010
Soap could cause less body hair? OMG? I mustn't take a bath for a week then, as I can't grow any except my head hair

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antisocialmunky 13:00 07-12-2010
I wasn't aware that lye removed nipples as well. What of other barechested units like Hindus and Getai though?

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Horatius Flaccus 13:34 07-12-2010
Just take a look at the preview of the Drapanai:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


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Phalanx300 14:41 07-12-2010
Originally Posted by Snite:
In the description for the Soap Maker it's explained that the Gauls and Germans used soap heavy with lye to get rid of their body hair, so it's actually correct to have hairless 'barbarians' as opposed to the flea infested, grimy, and excessively hairy barbarians of hollywood.
Interesting, might need some looking into for getting rid of body hair ;).

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Gustave 15:27 07-12-2010
We make an extensive use of the variety brought by medieval2. In a basic unit of gauls, some guys are hairy, some are not, and some wear tunics or armours.
edit : and they have nipples.

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Apázlinemjó 15:57 07-12-2010
Why do they have spiky hairs? Botroas have such too in EB1 and I don't understand, they knew a wax-like material, or why is that?

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fightermedic 17:16 07-12-2010
the spiked hair of the guy to the left look like he is wearing some sort of crown

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stratigos vasilios 17:38 07-12-2010
Their all Super Saiyan...

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jazstl 18:20 07-12-2010
That bothred me too...
Maybe Dragonball celts?

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Ludens 18:39 07-12-2010
Originally Posted by Apázlinemjó:
Why do they have spiky hairs? Botroas have such too in EB1 and I don't understand, they knew a wax-like material, or why is that?
Apparently. I can't give you a primary source, but I recall Adrian Goldsworthy mentioning that the Britons spiked their hair. They make the bearer look taller and more imposing, similar to the bearskins and mitres used by Napoleonic armies. It looks a bit ridiculous now, but it may appear very differently to you when you are standing in a battleline about to be charged by bloodthirsty Celts.

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Antonivs Silvicola 18:52 07-12-2010
I recall Goldsworthy saying that as well, but it was thought they used lye to spike their hair, and if lye causes hair loss I cant imagine them using it very often. Maybe its not as strong if just used occasionally before battle? Where as the lye soap would be used more often on their bodies.

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Tuuvi 21:47 07-12-2010
I think I remember reading in the Soap Maker description in EB 1 that they used soap to bleach and spike their hair.

Originally Posted by :
I recall Goldsworthy saying that as well, but it was thought they used lye to spike their hair, and if lye causes hair loss I cant imagine them using it very often. Maybe its not as strong if just used occasionally before battle? Where as the lye soap would be used more often on their bodies.
Good question

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Apázlinemjó 22:14 07-12-2010
Originally Posted by Ludens:
Apparently. I can't give you a primary source, but I recall Adrian Goldsworthy mentioning that the Britons spiked their hair. They make the bearer look taller and more imposing, similar to the bearskins and mitres used by Napoleonic armies. It looks a bit ridiculous now, but it may appear very differently to you when you are standing in a battleline about to be charged by bloodthirsty Celts.
Interesting info, thank you.

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The Celtic Viking 22:22 07-12-2010
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
I wasn't aware that lye removed nipples as well. What of other barechested units like Hindus and Getai though?
IIRC, I think someone on the team once said that they tried to make chest hair for EB1 but it was too difficult/not possible to make it look acceptable, so they chose to go without it.

The nipples were removed as part of the hidden censorship pack. They were simply considered too sexual for Americans in general; even moreso than the "Bananas Below", which is why this one wasn't optional. To avoid complaints from us Europeans, they chose to cover it up.

Or so the conspiracy theory goes.

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paullus 22:42 07-12-2010
lol


edit: and as you can see, nipples and hair will be present, at least on some units, in eb2. even belly buttons.

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Apázlinemjó 22:43 07-12-2010
Yeah there is a popular stereotype in Europe that everybody in the USA is prude.

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antisocialmunky 00:15 07-13-2010
The hair... it is from the Simpsons.

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WinsingtonIII 01:32 07-13-2010
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
The hair... it is from the Simpsons.
Actually it's modelled after the hair of characters on "The Jersey Shore"

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Cyclops 04:00 07-13-2010
Good to see the chest hair left in.

Aren't there multiple possible torsos? Any chance of the odd hairy back or even polythelia?

Or would that be gilding the lily?

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Cute Wolf 07:38 07-13-2010
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
The hair... it is from the Simpsons.


oh, that's why they named Bartroas...

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Gustave 08:25 07-13-2010
edit : nevermind

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MisterFred 08:39 07-13-2010
On another note, I was pretty impressed with the weapons wielded by the drapanai in the picture quoted above. The variety is impressive, and each individual weapon looks useable - or at least realistic :).

They really look like berzerker peasant levies now, rather than some bare-chested no-daichi.

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Tux 19:16 07-13-2010
Thanks everyone for the great support, obviously comparing our work with Bart Simpson is trully inspiring...

Now that this issue has been resolved, about the hairyness of units, someone please close the thread. Thanks!

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Ludens 19:38 07-13-2010
Guys, I think you are taking those comments too seriously. It's just a joke.

If you think it really necessary, I can delete the offending posts.

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