Blimey I agree with HoreTore. I'm going to have a lie down in a darkened room with a wet flannel on me head!
No wait! I realise now that he's just growing up.
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Blimey I agree with HoreTore. I'm going to have a lie down in a darkened room with a wet flannel on me head!
No wait! I realise now that he's just growing up.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
Growing up, getting selfish, same thing under the eyes of everyone anti-tax.Originally Posted by InsaneApache
Blimey I agree with HoreTore. I'm going to have a lie down in a darkened room with a wet flannel on me head!
No wait! I realise now that he's just growing up.
I had my gf tell me after a day of working on a movie set that she was assigned to organizing and filing whatever the papers are called that deal with taxes for the crew working on the set. She noticed that one person was making $7,000 a week. The person was losing a little under half of it to taxes. My gf then proclaims **** taxes. Do people lose sight of what is going on here? 7,000 a week is $364,000 for a year. Take in account for a moment, that instead of a movie (which I believe usually has about 40-50ish days of on set working), the guy had a stable job with a steady year round paycheck. Half of that gone means the man is making 182,000 a year! This man is still making more then 90% of Americans and I get **** taxes?
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
No not selfish. Realistic.
If someone's worth is $7,000 a week then it's right he/she gets the correct renumeration. I have no problem with that. One of the faults of communism is that it takes away incentive. Why get a job as, say, an oil tanker captain and get paid the same as the bog cleaner?
As for taxes. My view is that it's a racket. Taking money from some people to give to oher people is, what's the word I'm struggling for here? Oh yes I remember, it's called stealing. When it involves punishment such as fines and imprisonment if you don't pay up....now your in Al Capone territory.
Of course some taxation is necessary but punitive taxation is counter productive. I'm so pleased the scales have fallen from HoreTores eyes as he now advocates a flat rate tax. Good lad
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
Stealing? Damn, that means I must be a thief, or accessory to theft, as I'm studying across the country, going through college thanks to the Scholarship I get from the State, without which I could never study (Because I am in fact poor). I am most thankful to our thieving overlords, without whose thefts I could have never gotten the opportunities I have today.
BLARGH!
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
I was not arguing he should be paid less. I was simply annoyed at the sudden defiance towards taxes for having a man's standard of living not even drop.No not selfish. Realistic.
If someone's worth is $7,000 a week then it's right he/she gets the correct renumeration. I have no problem with that. One of the faults of communism is that it takes away incentive. Why get a job as, say, an oil tanker captain and get paid the same as the bog cleaner?
As for taxes. My view is that it's a racket. Taking money from some people to give to oher people is, what's the word I'm struggling for here? Oh yes I remember, it's called stealing. When it involves punishment such as fines and imprisonment if you don't pay up....now your in Al Capone territory.
Of course some taxation is necessary but punitive taxation is counter productive. I'm so pleased the scales have fallen from HoreTores eyes as he now advocates a flat rate tax. Good lad
The authority of the government is derived from the consent of the governed. We have all consented to be ruled by the government in charge of the region in which we reside through a social contract. Therefor, the actions of the government cannot be called stealing. If you feel you can not consent to the government due to its actions, then renounce your citizenship and reside under another government.
Comparing Al Capone to the government is absolutely nonsensical. AL Capone did not have the consent of the American people to rule over them and do as he judged should be done, the government does. Capone's actions violated people's rights since they did not consent to his actions whereas they have with the government. Everyone signs a social contract toward the government, Al Capone didn't have anyone sign any such contract to give him authority over their rights.
Money is power. Power corrupts. The more money you have, the stronger the corruption presses against you.
Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 07-14-2010 at 14:14. Reason: Removed personal attack
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I'm sorry I signed no such social contract with any government, let alone mine.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
You signed it when you decided to live within the confines of the governments region of control and participate in government affairs by voting. Try to convince others that you feel there should be less taxation and change the government or move. Don't complain that the government is Al Capone because you are too lazy to pick up and move and because the rest of the country disagrees with you on the amount of taxation.
It's just like Republicans saying that Obama is a tyrant simply because he won the election and is now implementing policies that Republicans disagree with.
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
Ironically, it seems that it is only those at the top who finally break through the mentality of constantly "needing/hording more" money since you can't really admit to yourself that you need more money when you only have less then 1 or 2 other people in the entire world. See Bill Gates with his foundation, and more importantly Warren Buffet who has pledged 99% of his wealth to charity when he dies.
This is why (Warren Buffet) is giving it all away in his own words:
https://i.imgur.com/xuMqS.png
EDIT: Really, really related. http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.co...opy-challenge/
EDIT: ****, I made a really bad typo. Sasaki quoted me before I fixed the typo.
Last edited by a completely inoffensive name; 07-14-2010 at 05:42. Reason: AHHH STUPID TYPO! changed more to less
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Really? There was I thinking that a contract had to be entered into voluntarily for it to have force under the law. Oh and it has to be witnessed. So just to be clear here. Because I didn't sign this contract, it was foisted on me, presumably as a child, which in itself makes it illegal as a minor cannot sign contracts, I'm still bound by it.
Novel thinking to say the least.
You got me banged to rights on the lazy bit though.
Last edited by InsaneApache; 07-14-2010 at 05:50.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
You're British, a subject to a crown, nobody asked nor needed you to sign anything.
Which I guess at least makes for a good excuse, unlike other countries where supposedly the people really do are in charge...
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Actually since 1983 I've also been a citizen. No one ask me to sign owt then either.
As for being a subject, never had a problem with it. We tolerate Madge, no more no less. Beats having a Bush/Sarkozy/Hitler in charge.
Yeh got a Godwin in.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: "Tax the rich!" - The dumbest slogan ever.
Of course some taxation is necessary but punitive taxation is counter productive. I'm so pleased the scales have fallen from HoreTores eyes as he now advocates a flat rate tax. Good lad
Why are so many people equating high taxation with flat taxation? Saying that punitive taxation is counter productive is not the same as saying that progressive taxes are bad/good.
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Wow. Busy thread.Blimey I agree with HoreTore. I'm going to have a lie down in a darkened room with a wet flannel on me head!
No wait! I realise now that he's just growing up.
He is, but his ideology will bind him to his current thinking. This thread will likely confirm biases and prevent any real maturation.
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
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