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gaelic cowboy 17:53 07-19-2010
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What eejits are they Hosakawa

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Rhyfelwyr 18:55 07-19-2010
I think they go by the name of douchebags. I saw one in RL in Glasgow recently, he was bright orange and had hair all white and spiked, plus he looked about five feet tall. As close to an oompa loompa as you could ask for.

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The Spartan (Returns) 19:49 07-19-2010
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk:
No, it's a pile of crap. No one is forced to buy or wear it. People choose to. It's popular in Africa / India and China. In all three areas (as well as Japan), whiteness has been preferred often way before "whiteys" turned up.
It's popular in all of Asia as well as South America.

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Moros 00:34 07-20-2010
It's silly, but that's about it. I guess that only means it fits in perfectly will all the other stuff sold in the beauty and fashion market.

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Megas Methuselah 03:04 07-20-2010
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Ya a light skin is prefered in almost every culture, rediculous to assume they want to be whites they just want a light skin.
Haha, not in my culture. This is why I go out to get a tan. Too damn pale. It's the Metis blood.

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HoreTore 08:50 07-20-2010
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
This isn't really true, certainly not for women, while a lot of people today are pushing "tanned = hot" the idea of beauty is still stubbornly at the "alabaster skin with rosy cheeks and full red lips" end of the spectrum.

Being tanned means you are active and healthy, but a pale complexion shows you are wealthy enough to not need to work, and will show up any imperfections as well. So overall a fair and clear complexion is still prefferred by many people.
That was true a hundred years ago, but fashion changes. All stock brokers, CEO's, politicians, etc are tanned, just look 'em up and you'll see. Same goes for the trophy wives, every single one of them has a tan.

EDIT: If you want proof, simply buy a copy of FHM and work out the pale/tanned ratio.

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Beskar 12:01 07-20-2010
Also, around the Tutor and Georgian period, women used to paint their faces white. Even Elizabeth the 1st did.

Though, the lead poisoning from it was very harmful.

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Slyspy 12:23 07-20-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
That was true a hundred years ago, but fashion changes. All stock brokers, CEO's, politicians, etc are tanned, just look 'em up and you'll see. Same goes for the trophy wives, every single one of them has a tan.

EDIT: If you want proof, simply buy a copy of FHM and work out the pale/tanned ratio.
There is still some distinction between sexy and beautiful, which are not necessarily the same thing. FHM certainly goes for the former, though in general I agree with you.

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Riedquat 17:02 07-20-2010
Originally Posted by The Spartan (Returns):
It's popular in all of Asia as well as South America.
South America?? Sorry but no, I would say exactly the opposite; at least in Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile and Argentina tanned is the way to go.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 22:44 07-20-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
That was true a hundred years ago, but fashion changes. All stock brokers, CEO's, politicians, etc are tanned, just look 'em up and you'll see. Same goes for the trophy wives, every single one of them has a tan.

EDIT: If you want proof, simply buy a copy of FHM and work out the pale/tanned ratio.
Eh? In Britain out politicians are not very tanned, nor are our CEO's.

In any case, neither they nor their "Tophy wives" are considered beautiful.

How many Hollywood actresses cultivate a tan in winter? Not many.

In fact, even UK glamour models are paler than they were even ten years ago.

The vogue for being tanned was a relatively brief fetish, and it seems to be over.

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Beskar 00:20 07-21-2010
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
The vogue for being tanned was a relatively brief fetish, and it seems to be over.
Quite the opposite, it is still here by the plenty.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 00:55 07-21-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Quite the opposite, it is still here by the plenty.
Much less though. Look at the glamour girls in the cheap rags thse days.

Fake boobs also seem to be on the way out, as well.

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Megas Methuselah 05:42 07-21-2010
The white people over here still go for tans, but it takes them a while to catch up with the fashion in their homelands.

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Fragony 07:22 07-21-2010
I take it you mean Europe ;) We want tans here it looks good. There is this mostly white lower class thingie with extreme tan, usually 40+ women who bleach their hair and wear tigerprints.

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HoreTore 08:24 07-21-2010
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
Eh? In Britain out politicians are not very tanned, nor are our CEO's.

In any case, neither they nor their "Tophy wives" are considered beautiful.

How many Hollywood actresses cultivate a tan in winter? Not many.

In fact, even UK glamour models are paler than they were even ten years ago.

The vogue for being tanned was a relatively brief fetish, and it seems to be over.
In what alternate universe is Britain a relevant source when the topic of beauty is discussed? Puh-lease.


Now.... Which group in our society has pale skin? Nerds. Computer geeks. Math teachers.

I can't honestly say that group is famous for their womanizing. But they may be in that alternate universe where Britain is relevant to a discussion on beauty....

And finally, irrefutable proof that everyone looks better with a proper tan. Victoria Beckham would be the exception there, but she doesn't look good in any situation....

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Slyspy 11:30 07-21-2010
Ah, Horetore, to be honest with you most of those peole look better in the "pale" pics. Many of the women look older and especially scraggy in the "tanned" pics. I'm always wary of such celeb pics though due to the editing of the pics and the selection process involved.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 12:18 07-21-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
In what alternate universe is Britain a relevant source when the topic of beauty is discussed? Puh-lease.
The same universe where Norway is considered a polite and civilised society?

Britain has a very large number of attractive women, the difference is we don't insist all less than perfect people hide in Fjords where outlanders can't ever see them.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 12:21 07-21-2010
Originally Posted by Slyspy:
Ah, Horetore, to be honest with you most of those peole look better in the "pale" pics. Many of the women look older and especially scraggy in the "tanned" pics. I'm always wary of such celeb pics though due to the editing of the pics and the selection process involved.
The bases are also somewhat loaded, as many of those women are actually not "white", and don't necessarily look healthy when pale. Though, to be honest, I don't find Mariah Carrey attractive at all really.

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Megas Methuselah 07:51 07-23-2010
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
Though, to be honest, I don't find Mariah Carrey attractive at all really.
Yeah, she's a strange-looking woman. But then, that makes her strangely appealing. In a strange sort of way.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 08:52 07-23-2010
Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah:
Yeah, she's a strange-looking woman. But then, that makes her strangely appealing. In a strange sort of way.
I know what you mean, but still no. A friend of mine likes the "mixed race" look, but from my point of view she's not a great mix.

Then I don't like the fact that she seems to ossilate between being "white" or "black" depending on which is more in fashion.

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Fragony 15:03 07-23-2010
She looks a bit like a monkey imho, don't find her very atractive. Girl I know is half Spanish half Turkish hotdamn on a mother plane

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Megas Methuselah 07:07 07-24-2010
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
I know what you mean, but still no. A friend of mine likes the "mixed race" look, but from my point of view she's not a great mix.

Then I don't like the fact that she seems to ossilate between being "white" or "black" depending on which is more in fashion.
Uhm...? I thought she was white with a tan? Whatever, mane, that's not what I meant. I think it's the fame that gives her the small trinket of sexiness.

EDIT: And to add to Frag's comment, I've seen some very, very hot Metis girls in my time. They're a people well-known for their looks, absorbing the best of both sides.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 11:22 07-24-2010
Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah:
Uhm...? I thought she was white with a tan? Whatever, mane, that's not what I meant. I think it's the fame that gives her the small trinket of sexiness.

EDIT: And to add to Frag's comment, I've seen some very, very hot Metis girls in my time. They're a people well-known for their looks, absorbing the best of both sides.
She's of mixed African/white descent, supposedly. When she first appeared she marketed herself as white, now she markets herself as black.

so now she has a tan, where before she didn't. A similar phenomenon, occurs when some directors want Jessica Alba to look more European, then have here hair lightened, or her skin, etc.

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rajpoot 07:59 07-26-2010
While this thread is quite past that point, but I'll still like to point out that this fairer is more beautiful concept is not limited to India. And it certainly does not have anything to do with the caste system at all. In general people from Northern India are fairer and those from the South are duskier, and that's mainly because of the difference in the race. South India has people of the Dravidian stock while North Indian stock is quite mixed, but originally Aryan.
Anyway like I was saying, 'fairer is better' is not limited to India. Western writers and poets have since ages raved about the fairness of their ladies and written poems in honour of their alabaster skin......

But yeah, people here are still a little backward that way. The girl being fair has some weight-age when negotiating matrimonial alliances....specially with the elders.

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rory_20_uk 11:13 07-26-2010
As one gets towards the Equator, the amount of UV light one is exposed to increases. Higher levels of melatonin offer increase protection. Melatonin is a dark pigment, and hence skins are darker. Paler skins are at a significant disadvantage.



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Strike For The South 05:23 07-27-2010
when I get a tan my body hair turns blonde and my eyes get greener....do i have cancer?

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Louis VI the Fat 06:34 07-27-2010
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
when I get a tan my body hair turns blonde and my eyes get greener....do i have cancer?
I've got green eyes too. It is your central European Celtic blood, forged where the solid granite of the Alps merges with the gentle plains of Gaul.

Green is so much more special than the standard brown of the endless billions, more refined than the harsh blue of the North's foggy marshes. Green is the rarest eye colour in the world. We are unique. Gods among men.

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Fragony 08:28 07-27-2010
Green is the color of envy. Coolest eyes: the ice-cold blue of the deer-people from Northern Finland.

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Beskar 21:52 07-27-2010
Purple eyes are nice.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 01:28 07-28-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Purple eyes are nice.
Green is nice, but Amber with flecks of Green is much nicer.

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