Re: Rape by deception
Oh you evul terrurist! With this kind of words you'll lure the war on terror to Indonesia.Originally Posted by Cute Wolf
yeah, then, if he was really a clever man, the only choice for him is flee to Gaza strip and joining Hamas....
PS: Do you (still) have oil in Indonesia? This is a must, or the bait won't work. With a bit of luck they'll only free the **** out of Atjeh
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I don't meant I support hamas, you allready know that I was the opposite oneOh you evul terrurist! With this kind of words you'll lure the war on terror to Indonesia.
PS: Do you (still) have oil in Indonesia? This is a must, or the bait won't work. With a bit of luck they'll only free the **** out of Atjeh... I actually meant that if he want to stay out of multiple years in jail just because banging some lady... he should do something to run away.... umm... in the other hands, we also didn't have any diplomatic relations to Israel, so he could always considering flee to Indonesia or Malaysia
ADD : oh yeah, we still have oils, but that doesn't meant you could take it... and you know better about Atjeh problems... they done that since medieval times! wait for the next preview of Sultanate of Atjeh factions, and you will see they allready have "half suicide" units far before middle eastern one do this!!!
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Some of you might be interested in reading what the Arab involved has to say.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ception-charge
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basically one thing could be said, sexual relations outside marriage are highly potent to gave some problems later...
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Sluts....
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I believe only the "deception" part is true, rape should be something else.
By the way both Arabs and Israelis (Moslem and Jews) are mostly circumcised.
At least it helps identifying victims or spies in battles
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Is any deception "rape" now?
Saying you love someone?
Saying you'll marry them?
Saying you're single?
Saying you're rich?
When you're lying?
It appears that rape is coming to include "in retrospect, if I knew then what I knew / feel now I would not have given consent - therefore I didn't therefore it is raaaaaape!!!!!"
As long as we just remember that as soon as a victim cries rape we understand nothing they have done in any way contributed to the outcome.
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Maybe he was raping in self defence? I'd pick that line of action if I was his lawyer.
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Male rape cannot happen, it is not they can slip him a pill or anything for arousal.
But more seriously, if a guy says 'no' and the female is forceful and continues (etc). Even if he later ends up having sex with her because of the whole arousal, etc, if he made it absolutely clear he didn't want sex with her and made serious attempts to stop her, then she is punishable.
I believe there is even a film about this too.
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Sorry if I seem dense but is this a joke or are you being serious?
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The clue was in the next line when I said "But more seriously...".
Yes, there is a pill named 'viagra' which is pretty common, to cause erections.
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You can tie him up and whip him (this actually happened, to a priest no less).
You are also assuming that raping a man involves that man penetrating the woman raping him.
Not so.
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Most documented cases of female-male rape involve a female engaging a minor in intercourse, which constitutes as statutory rape; I'm sure you all remember the case in America a few years back about a young female teacher who had sex with one of her fourteen year old students... I think the child's parents found out through an instant messaging service and reported it to the police themselves, though.
I would guess that any instant where a non-statutory female-male rape occured would probably have less steep repercussions on the female perpetrator than if she had been a male... double standards, unfortunately; women just aren't seen as sex offenders for the most part.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-V...has_verified=1
Male Rape is highly under-reported as common attitude is that people see it as a joke. Or even worse, that it is a gay crime. Aka, a woman cannot rape a man.
There is also the image that women are fragile weak creatures in society, when they really are not,
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As in all things, Washington State leads the world.
Mary Kay Letourneau (age 35) got pregnant and had a child from a 13 year old student, was caught, jailed briefly, released, caught a year later with the same student, got pregnant again and had another child, jailed for several years, was released, and then married said student after he turned 21.
EDIT: With more info on the actual crime, from Louis' post #53, this punishment is not a fraction of what he deserves. Bring on Hayley Stark.
As to the topic - it's an appalling verdict that strikes me as racist.
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"I am paying the price for a mistake that she made,"
Sums it up quite nicely. He get's a bogus charge because she's angry that she disregarded her principles.
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That's about as stupid as it can get. The judge is obviously a racist scumbag.
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Imagine if this happened in the civilized world..."a Jewish woman who claimed she would not have had sex with him had she known he was an Arab."
Oh, but I've the solution, what if arabs would just wear an obligatory yellow star or a red crescent moon on his shirt and coat, that way it would be easier to recognise and deport if necessary..." The message from the judge, he says, was that "because you are an Arab and you didn't make that clear, we are going to punish you".
If that's a criminal, I'm a criminal. I'M SPARTACUS!"The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls."
Israel is the last hub of freedom in the middle-east! Really, you can trust us Jews...He was interrogated for five to six hours, without a lawyer.
He says that in 16 years of teaching at a university where 20-25% of the student population is Arab, he has "never even heard of a mixed relationship". Discrimination against Arabs is, he says, evident at all levels.
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Actually I was reminded of Olga the hair stylist.
And after reading the article tibilicus linked I think even more that this is stupid and disgusting.
The perception of the woman, or what she claims to have perceived, cannot be the sole basis of a conviction for rape just because she made a decision based on her perception that she apparently regretted later.
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