Oliver Stone: Holocaust Blown Way Out of Proportion by Jewish Dominated Media

[Skullheadhq]

What's the point you're trying to make, btw? That the Holocaust is completely irrelevant when studying about WW II?

And do you think that the Holocaust was the single most important thing in WWII and that the war around it is of secondary importance? Because this is how it is teached in schools and being showed in movies.

I think Skull is making the same destinction I do, WW2 and the holocaust being two events that happened at the same time. WW2 is german army and allies, holocaust was European, no way around it.

Exactly, thank you!

[rory_20_uk]

Germans did also gain:

Slave labour camps massively reduced labour costs
Items stolen off the Jews helped finance the war effort.
Science was forwarded without concern about morality.

But I am sure they were a net looser. The loss of scientists alone was a massive blow and a boon to the allies.

the holocaust in the form it took was a direct consequence of WW2 and I don't think that the two can be so easily separated.

[Fragony]

Yeah but it wasn't just Germany it was everyone.

[rory_20_uk]

Events need to be like stories. We need a Baddie and a Goodie. Real life is almost never this simple. Who is to be the Baddie?

The great thing about this is the Nazis were utterly defeated and rendered illegal as a political force. So, we can blame them for everything and make them Baddies. As a consequence everyone else can be on the goodie side - the French as resistance fighters, not as collaborators for example.

[Skullheadhq]

the French as resistance fighters, not as collaborators for example.

Years ago Henri Amouroux wrote an intersting book: Quarante millions de Petainistes and La grande histoire des français sous l'occupation. Interesting material.