Oliver Stone: Holocaust Blown Way Out of Proportion by Jewish Dominated Media

[Skullheadhq]

Soooo - this is the backup for these hyperbolic statements: [....]

Name one other event that has as much movies. Just one. (WWII excluded)

and you refer to one (according to your link) highly disputed book by one historian as the source for "Napoleon = Hitler"

I just said it 2 times before, so I'll repeat it: Napoleon is like Hitler and Genghis Khan in the aspect that he was feared for the next 100 years, not in other aspects. It would be impossible to compare Genghis and Hitler in any other aspect. But yet the allegations that Napoleon gassed Haitians are interesting at least.

[Fragony]

Name one other event that has as much movies. Just one. (WWII excluded)

More people could read and write so there are simply more story's to tell. Can only have so many individual story's over a battle. I am going to look into the Haiti stuff, it wouldn't surprise me all that much.

@Brenus, gas (as a weapon) was already used at the siege of Breda by the Spanish, they used it to clear tunnels.

[Ser Clegane]

Name one other event that has as much movies. Just one. (WWII excluded)

How many other contemporary events of a similar scale come to mind? How many events that were located in countries that have the movie-making industry and the target audience?

Considering this the coverage that the Holocaust receives seems to be well in line with other similar events (WW2, Vietnam, Hiroshima/Nagasaki), however, you are blowing it completely out of proportion by trying to create the (wrong) impression that every time you turn on the TV you have to watch a Holocaust movie.

[Fragony]

Considering this the coverage that the Holocaust receives seems to be well in line with other similar events (WW2, Vietnam, Hiroshima/Nagasaki), however, you are blowing it completely out of proportion by trying to create the (wrong) impression that every time you turn on the TV you have to watch a Holocaust movie.

That simply isn't true but it can't be denied it is often brought up for political gain, ironically often by leftist/islamic organisations.

[Slyspy]

People are complaining that an event which touched every nation in Europe, plus the movie making powerhouse of the US, gets too much film coverage? And then using that to show that the Holocaust gets more mention in the cultural record than, say, the massacre of the Polish elite, the the terrible Japanese camps or the millions dead in Stalinist Russia! Laughable. How many Polish officers lived side by side with the natives in every European country? How many Berlin/Paris/Amsterdam/Rome/London families in the 30's and 40's had Russian peasants living next door? How many people have grandparents who can remember the events of the Napoleanic wars or the sad mess that was the Boer War? How many people in the post war world looked at Nazi Germany and saw themselves reflected?

[Andres]

Name one other event that has as much movies. Just one. (WWII excluded)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vietnam_War_films

[Skullheadhq]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vietnam_War_films

I opened it and the first thing I saw was "Forrest Gump", yeaah right...

[Andres]

I opened it and the first thing I saw was "Forrest Gump", yeaah right...

Your list has "Cabaret" on it.

[Brenus]

“The Netherlands also inferior?” No, the Dutch were not in the list of inferiors. However, nor France or England but they were the ones on the road. Hitler wanted to avoid fighting on two fronts so the neutralisation of France and England was his first priority as the two countries decided finally that the invasion (East) of Poland was the step too much.

“The Netherlands was invaded to serve as base to attack England, not France”
Holland like Belgium was the bait for the French Mechanised Army and BEF and just this.

“Without Hitler no holocaust, but no WW2?” Probably a WW2 as we know now that from 1919, Germany started to avoid all her commitments regarding the Treaty. Secret training in USSR, training of army etc…

Skullheadhq, I suggest you should read the links you provide, e.g. The Dairy of Ann Frank is not an Holocaust movies (nor the Juggler and Exodus) as many of them. They all speak of the Holocaust but they don’t describe it…

Same with Napoleon gassing the slaves I am afraid. The annoyance with philosophers is they are not Historians, so they tend to evacuate all what is not going in their direction.
And why a French general would have use such a method when they had one used and proven efficient one as showed in Vendée and Britany: Gal Turreau (I have no prisoner to be blame for. I killed them all…. They all finish under the free sword of the Revolution).
I suggest you to read the Decret of 1st of August 1793 (which is very closed of what the British will do in South Africa/Transvaal) and the 12 “colonnes Infernales” that break definitively the Royalist up-raising…

“But yet the allegations that Napoleon gassed Haitians are interesting at least.”
Well it would if Napoleon had put a foot in Haiti… Can’t be in Italy, Egypt, Spain, Russia, Germany, Austria etc AND Haiti…

“No, the women and children were starved to death just so the men would surrender to save them, the men didn't.” Err, yes it was a monstrosity but no more than a contra-insurgency usual tactic that was use e.g. Vietnam, Algeria or Vendée. You deprive the enemy of his support (guerrilla is in the population like a fish in the river, so dry the river) managed with brutality and incompetence.
The total death tall (27,000 according to a pro-Boers site) is one day of Treblinka, just to put things in perspectives.

“Name one other event that has as much movies”
Well, according you extended definition, all movies speaking the Conquest of the West are about the Genocide of the Natives…

“gas (as a weapon) was already used at the siege of Breda by the Spanish, they used it to clear tunnels.”
Interesting. How they did and which gas? In tunnel, it understandable and easy as all miners know, you have deadly explosive gas (grisou) or even simply methane…

“I opened it and the first thing I saw was "Forrest Gump", yeaah right...” You should have done this for your link…

[Fragony]

Don't know what gas they used. Tunneling was pretty common because of the soft soil, defending part also made them and put 'listeners' there. My neighbour actually found one under his house, pretty cool.

And no, just no. The Netherlands was invaded because of England, Hitler actually planned an invasion using paratroopers but lost too many airplanes.

[Skullheadhq]

And no, just no. The Netherlands was invaded because of England, Hitler actually planned an invasion using paratroopers but lost too many airplanes.

The Netherlands was probably attacked because the French counted on a repeat of the 1905 von Schlieffen plan. The French line needed to be stretched to the max, which would need Holland on the Allies' side. Because of this Guderian could force multiple breakthroughs.