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Centurion1 23:06 07-28-2010
Hmmm horetore you can pick a hindu from punjab and seperate him from a moslem from punjab? This sounds likely......

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HoreTore 23:11 07-28-2010
Originally Posted by Centurion1:
Hmmm horetore you can pick a hindu from punjab and seperate him from a moslem from punjab? This sounds likely......
No more than I can seperate a French Catholic from a French Protestant.

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Furunculus 23:14 07-28-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
But it is my understanding that most nationalists do care about such things... It'll be hilarious, they want none of the EU, but they want power and influence over the world, which they can't get any of without membership in the EU....
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that might be a problem for 'the' nationalists, but it isn't a problem for this person, for Britain will still be the seventh largest economy in the world by 2050, we'll still have plenty of influence in the world for my purposes.

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HoreTore 23:23 07-28-2010
Originally Posted by Furunculus:
that might be a problem for 'the' nationalists, but it isn't a problem for this person,
I do wonder, why do you always seem to believe that I'm attacking you whenever I talk about Britain?

Originally Posted by Furunculus:
for Britain will still be the seventh largest economy in the world by 2050, we'll still have plenty of influence in the world for my purposes.
....Assuming, of course, that India will help you get out of the recession, because with the negative growth your currently experiencing, you're looking at zero economy in 2050.... Also, you're working under the assumptiuon that there will actually be a britain in 2050, and not just an EU....

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InsaneApache 01:00 07-29-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Now you lost me...
No my friend. You're the one who's hopelessly lost.

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Tellos Athenaios 04:18 07-29-2010
Originally Posted by Skullheadhq:
Don't listen to the Belgian, he's still mad about 1815.
Here are some of the best food in the world (and Dutch)

-Hutspot
-Zuurkool
-Boerenkool
-Nederwiet
-Patatje Oorlog
-Frikandel
-Kroket
-HEMA worst
-Oranjevla
-Drop
-Broodje Aap
-Vlaflip
-Broodje Belg ;)
-Squid Paul
- the Spanish
and the list goes on and on
My point exactly. Out of the entire list the only things that are genuinely excellent are Drop (liquorice, but not the English allsorts kind) and Squid. The rest is pretty meh or truly disgusting.

But Squid is cheating because its a Mediterranean dish; and a good consommé is worlds ahead of the rest you mentioned.

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Wishazu 10:16 07-29-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
I do wonder, why do you always seem to believe that I'm attacking you whenever I talk about Britain?
I wouldn't presume to speak for someone else here but perhaps it's because he's British? Every time you talk about Britain you are attacking it...

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Skullheadhq 10:24 07-29-2010
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios:
But Squid is cheating because its a Mediterranean dish; and a good consommé is worlds ahead of the rest you mentioned.


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Furunculus 12:59 07-29-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
I do wonder, why do you always seem to believe that I'm attacking you whenever I talk about Britain?
no, that's your imagination, still, i am more than willing to draw attention to your behaviour when it is particularly trollish.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
....Assuming, of course, that India will help you get out of the recession, because with the negative growth your currently experiencing, you're looking at zero economy in 2050.... Also, you're working under the assumptiuon that there will actually be a britain in 2050, and not just an EU....
lol, we'll do just fine i'm sure:
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/pub...=view&id=24195

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Tellos Athenaios 14:46 07-29-2010
@Skullheadhq
Why, not smarting that Paul got it right and you got it wrong are you?

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Fragony 10:20 07-30-2010
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios:
My point exactly. Out of the entire list the only things that are genuinely excellent are Drop (liquorice, but not the English allsorts kind) and Squid. The rest is pretty meh or truly disgusting.

But Squid is cheating because its a Mediterranean dish; and a good consommé is worlds ahead of the rest you mentioned.
Boerenkool and zuurkool are the mana of the gods. Sooooooooooooooooooooo good.

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rory_20_uk 17:16 07-30-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Yup, Britain, Norway and every other European country will soon be at the same, irrelevant level. The only way for any of us to influence anything in the future, will be through the EU.... Fortunately, since I don't give a rat's behind about influence or power, I can still happily be against membership in the EU

But it is my understanding that most nationalists do care about such things... It'll be hilarious, they want none of the EU, but they want power and influence over the world, which they can't get any of without membership in the EU....
Are you drunk? The EU excells at one thing: fudges. It has no real policies bar fluff as that would involve sorting out the mess the EU is. Any issue has so many views that the "solution" is something that everyone can either ignore or work their around. The EU stand up to the USA / China - hell even India / Iran / Brazil / Russia. Half of them will want the opposite of the others, ranging from food imports to cheap shoes.



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Tellos Athenaios 19:05 07-30-2010
Depends. EU works pretty well for things like Congo missions (the only successful one so far is an EU one, and the reason it is/was successful is that it brought not just troops but also things like a police corps with it). EU works not so well for strong arming the USA or similar.

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rory_20_uk 19:53 07-30-2010
"Join the EU, we can send a mission to help the Congo... for a bit."

If it's no good for matters with the USA or frankly anyone important then what's the point?



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Husar 02:13 07-31-2010
Of course it's not good for matters with the USA because the EU member that constantly whines about the EU not being good about matters with the USA or other big nations has a "special relationship" with the USA and does everything their "special friend" wants of them.

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Ja'chyra 08:22 07-31-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
It happened with the US after WW2, now it's happening again.

A PM, half a government and around 80 people from Britains business elite has landed in India, the biggest official delegation since Harold Macmillan was the first British PM in an independent India. Back then, India needed Britains help to create its state. Now the tables are turned, India no longer has any real need for Britain, while Britain desperatly needs India to help them out of recession. At the same time, nationalism is on the rise back in Britain, fuelled by hate against scary brown people....including Indians.

I, for one, find all this highly amusing. At least Cameron understands that Britains new role in the world is to bow down and lick boot. When will the rest of the population follow him?

You've got a bit of a downer of everything at the minute, haven't you.

Maybe you need a little 5 minutes to yourself or a happy pill or something. Go on, break the habit of months, post something nice.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 16:10 07-31-2010
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
No more than I can seperate a French Catholic from a French Protestant.
That's usually pretty easy, the Roman Catholic will be wearing a St. Christopher's and the Cucifix, the Protestant wouldn't be caught dead with either.

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
I do wonder, why do you always seem to believe that I'm attacking you whenever I talk about Britain?
It's not only him, you are often very rude about Britian. What about your repeated attacks on British women? Maybe you should ask Secura what she thinks of those some time? I've seen her in here of late, I believe.

Originally Posted by :
....Assuming, of course, that India will help you get out of the recession, because with the negative growth your currently experiencing, you're looking at zero economy in 2050.... Also, you're working under the assumptiuon that there will actually be a britain in 2050, and not just an EU....
Growth was 1.3% last quarter at current estimates, and it has been positive growth for some time. How's Norway doing?

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Furunculus 18:36 07-31-2010
Originally Posted by Husar:
Of course it's not good for matters with the USA because the EU member that constantly whines about the EU not being good about matters with the USA or other big nations has a "special relationship" with the USA and does everything their "special friend" wants of them.
don't kid yourself, europe doesn't have a collective set of balls between the whole sorry lot.

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Beskar 19:03 07-31-2010
Should elect me as European President.

Oh wait, there are no elections.

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gaelic cowboy 03:53 08-01-2010
Originally Posted by Furunculus:
don't kid yourself, europe doesn't have a collective set of balls between the whole sorry lot.
Furunculus are you not European??????????? I think you mean the EU doesnt have any balls.

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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus 13:22 08-01-2010
Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy:
Furunculus are you not European??????????? I think you mean the EU doesnt have any balls.
Furunculus does not consider himself European, in point of fact neither do I, not in the sense of being substantively simliar to mainland Europe. In point of fact, it can be seen that Scandanavia is also not "European" in the same sense as France and Germany, but then neither is Spain or Greece for that matter.

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Furunculus 13:43 08-01-2010
Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy:
Furunculus are you not European??????????? I think you mean the EU doesnt have any balls.
no, not in any important or tangible way.

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Husar 14:38 08-01-2010
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
Furunculus does not consider himself European, in point of fact neither do I, not in the sense of being substantively simliar to mainland Europe. In point of fact, it can be seen that Scandanavia is also not "European" in the same sense as France and Germany, but then neither is Spain or Greece for that matter.
And France and Germany are exactly the same?
It's quite ridiculous, if you're going by geographical standards we're still on the same continent, I've never seen England mentioned as it's own continent, and if we're going by culture etc. then I don't see why England would be more different from Germany than France?

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InsaneApache 14:52 08-01-2010
Fog in the channel, Europe cut off.

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Furunculus 14:57 08-01-2010
Originally Posted by Husar:
And France and Germany are exactly the same?
It's quite ridiculous, if you're going by geographical standards we're still on the same continent, I've never seen England mentioned as it's own continent, and if we're going by culture etc. then I don't see why England would be more different from Germany than France?
they may not be, but the fact stands; i do not feel a european bond with nations on the continent, nor do i see any need to invent one.

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gaelic cowboy 17:12 08-01-2010
So you will be declining to enter the Champions League so???????????

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Furunculus 18:39 08-01-2010
what?

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gaelic cowboy 00:11 08-02-2010
^
Only European teams can enter

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Husar 00:44 08-02-2010
Originally Posted by Furunculus:
they may not be, but the fact stands; i do not feel a european bond with nations on the continent, nor do i see any need to invent one.
I can respect that, but I also don't see a need to try and support that by saying you're oh-so different when you're not and neither do I really see the point in fighting european integration vigorously as if it would completely ruin everybody who participates.
I'm not supporting everything the EU does either but I still support a united Europe in general.

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Tellos Athenaios 09:26 08-02-2010
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
Fog in the channel, Europe cut off.
Exactly. Which is why you paid vast sums of money for a safe escape route to France.

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