Pritanoi (and Casse) Generals-Innacurate?

[Brennus]

It's times like these that I really miss the original MTW ability of dismounting your units before battle... I still cannot understand why they got rid of that ability...

I can only imagine that CA didn't consider it a particularly common occurence in Antiquity. I can't think of any battles during the EB timerame where cavalry dismounted before battle. (Prove me wrong everyone!).

[athanaric]

I can only imagine that CA didn't consider it a particularly common occurence in Antiquity. I can't think of any battles during the EB timerame where cavalry dismounted before battle. (Prove me wrong everyone!).

IIRC Chinese troops liked to do that - but then again, they were more mounted infantry than actual cavalry. Mounted infantry could easily be represented in game as an nfantry unit with the same movement points as cavalry plus an increased upkeep cost.

[WinsingtonIII]

I can only imagine that CA didn't consider it a particularly common occurence in Antiquity. I can't think of any battles during the EB timerame where cavalry dismounted before battle. (Prove me wrong everyone!).

That could be it, but they never brought it back for M2TW, which seems very strange. If it was easy enough to script into the 1st Medieval, why not put it in the second?

IIRC Chinese troops liked to do that - but then again, they were more mounted infantry than actual cavalry. Mounted infantry could easily be represented in game as an nfantry unit with the same movement points as cavalry plus an increased upkeep cost.

That raises a good question... I wonder if the Pritanoi infantry bodyguards will have the same movement points as cavalry to reflect that they would ride to battle on chariots.

[Foot]

That could be it, but they never brought it back for M2TW, which seems very strange. If it was easy enough to script into the 1st Medieval, why not put it in the second?

Completely different engine. Things don't translate so easily if its not built in from the start.

That raises a good question... I wonder if the Pritanoi infantry bodyguards will have the same movement points as cavalry to reflect that they would ride to battle on chariots.

On the campaign map? That is hardcoded values afaik.

Foot

[WinsingtonIII]

Completely different engine. Things don't translate so easily if its not built in from the start.



On the campaign map? That is hardcoded values afaik.

Foot

Yes, that's true. Still a shame though.

How is campaign map movement points hardcoded? By unit type? As in units classed as cavalry all get the same and units classed as infantry all get the same?

[B-Wing]

How is campaign map movement points hardcoded? By unit type? As in units classed as cavalry all get the same and units classed as infantry all get the same?

I believe that is correct. I guess this begs the question, "what if we labeled certain infantry units as mounted?" I can't help but assume that this would results in some unwanted side effects. If nothing else, it would probably further hamper the AI.

[Moros]

While the thread has been put back alive again. Just wanted to mention that Cassius Dio mentions them in the british invasion of 43 AD as well and if I'm not mistaken they are mentioned by tacitus in his biography of agricola too. So that's another two quotes.

[Taliferno]

I believe that is correct. I guess this begs the question, "what if we labeled certain infantry units as mounted?" I can't help but assume that this would results in some unwanted side effects. If nothing else, it would probably further hamper the AI.

The most obvious side effect would be spear units getting a bonus against this special unit

[paullus]

Just as a side note, related to the original question in this thread, there are chariot bits recovered from several of the hillforts in the Wessex region. No chariot burials as far as I know, but a number of various metallic bits have been recovered.

[WinsingtonIII]

I believe that is correct. I guess this begs the question, "what if we labeled certain infantry units as mounted?" I can't help but assume that this would results in some unwanted side effects. If nothing else, it would probably further hamper the AI.

Yeah, I believe the battle AI treats units differently depending on how they are classified, so it would attempt to use the infantry unit as cavalry on the battlefield.

[Kikaz]

Yeah, I believe the battle AI treats units differently depending on how they are classified, so it would attempt to use the infantry unit as cavalry on the battlefield.

Maybe that wouldn't be so bad, considering there won't be that many of them and that AI is reckless with their generals no matter what.