Askthepizzaguy Mafia [Concluded]

[Diana Abnoba]

For me, Civplayah already had bids on him, he couldn't out bid us as well as Skooma. Next round bid on Skooma. If we put too many bids on several people, the mafia can just out bid us to save themselves or their partners.

[Double A]

True, it'd be too hard to lynch Skooma, especially since he could just put money on someone else.

Wager 25: civplayah

[Sasaki Kojiro]

lol, I think I am still in the lead due to jht's vote.

Should I break the pact

Yes I believe I can do that, extenuating circumstances and all.

wager 80 credits: Seon

Skooma is my next choice, and has a lot of votes, but hmm.

civplayah seems innocent actually

But honestly, despite yesterdays success we are shooting in the dark here. Seon has what 4 posts? But if we make a decent enough effort we can win eventually.

And seon, if you do save yourself you're scum, hmmk? No extenuating circumstances in your case.

greyblades and cdf have been very quiet.

Thought of a kind of gamebreaking strategy...don't think we'll use it though.

[Skooma Addict]

lol, I think I am still in the lead due to jht's vote.

Should I break the pact

Yes I believe I can do that, extenuating circumstances and all.

wager 80 credits: Seon

Skooma is my next choice, and has a lot of votes, but hmm.

civplayah seems innocent actually

But honestly, despite yesterdays success we are shooting in the dark here. Seon has what 4 posts? But if we make a decent enough effort we can win eventually.

And seon, if you do save yourself you're scum, hmmk? No extenuating circumstances in your case.

greyblades and cdf have been very quiet.

Thought of a kind of gamebreaking strategy...don't think we'll use it though.

You never answered my question as to what exactly I did that looked scummy to you, but that's fine. One way or another, it won't matter after this day phase.

Wager: 90 Seon

That is all of my remaining coins. If I'm not mistaken, that's 195 coin on Seon, outbidding all other wagers. The rest of you can fold your bids and save your coin for when it is most needed as is not the case at the moment. Save your coin. It's much better I contribute all of my worth to take out a prime suspect along with myself, saving town coin this round as well as my subsequent lynch the next. I'm offering two birds with one stone, so conserve your coin and make sure someone is in the thread to make sure no one tries a last minute switch-a-roo to someone else in the morning.

[Seon]

Well, you all will be wasting a lot of money, but whatever, isn't it?

fold. 90 credits on Sasaki.

[Romanic]

Well, you all will be wasting a lot of money, but whatever, isn't it?

fold. 90 credits on Sasaki.

If you are Town, you should not be thinking like that. Your survival as individual is not important and you should make your lynch as costless as possible. Your attitude is very anti-Town here, Seon.

Again, it's suspicious to see big bets on someone who lynched Jolt on Day 1. Of course he could have lynched his partner to gain a lot of favor, and I have no doubt that Sasaki could make this play, but I am not interested to test this theory on Day 2.

Wager 90: Sasaki.

Why not?

JHT, you need to remove this vote now. If it was a trap then good job, we've baited Seon. We cannot afford to pay 200+ credits to later realize that Seon was just a stubbord townie. Let's reduce the cost of lynching him, and for that we need you to fold your vote on Sasaki. If you don't remove it, you will lose it anyway and die, because unless the situation changes, I guarantee you that I will make the necessary wager to lynch Seon at the time limit.

The same goes for anyone else not voting for Seon. It's time to fold to save your credits.

[Romanic]

This setup makes it hard for the mafia to lynch a townie because they will lose their credits by doing so, and I think they are aware of this. Notice how Jolt made a 85 credit wager on Day 1 - He could not go the whole way because he would also die.

If the person you wager money on is innocent, you lose those credits.

That's the killer rule for them.

So that's why Jolt bet 85 and not 100. He kept 15 to survive.

Now notice Seon's last bet. He's pushing a lot of chips to lynch Sasaki (90), but he's still keeping some (9). I would be much more inclined to believe that Seon is town if he pushed his whole stack(99), as it would show that Seon really believes Sasaki to be scum. Keeping 9 credits shows that Seon is worried about his survival, and that he possibly knows Sasaki is not mafia.

However the same reasoning could be applied to Sasaki's wager of 80 on Seon. I don't like it Sasaki. Why 100 on Jolt and now only 80 on Seon?