Wikileaks reveals identity of Afgan informants

[HoreTore]

Oh yes, and in the primitive days of July 2010 without computers and programs like Word, it was an impossible task for a humble and poor news publisher to replace those names with X himself.

When did it become Wikileaks responsibility to protect the lives of NATO troops and their allies?

[Andres]

When did it become Wikileaks responsibility to protect the lives of NATO troops and their allies?

When did it become their duty to bring them at grave risk of being tortured and killed?

Their duty is to inform the public, not to bring named individuals in danger.

With freedom comes responsibility.

[HoreTore]

When did it become their duty to bring them at grave risk of being tortured and killed?

Their duty is to inform the public, not to bring named individuals in danger.

With freedom comes responsibility.

The informants safety is NATO's responsibility.

The rest of us are under no obligation to give a crap.

[Skullheadhq]

The rest of us are under no obligation to give a crap.

That's true, there is no European law protecting those innocent informers against the evil European taxpayers

[Vladimir]

When did it become Wikileaks responsibility to protect the lives of NATO troops and their allies?

The same time one assumes responsibility for other people's lives when driving a car. The same time when one assumes responsibility for a child. The same time your actions can lead to the deaths of others.

[HoreTore]

The same time one assumes responsibility for other people's lives when driving a car. The same time when one assumes responsibility for a child. The same time your actions can lead to the deaths of others.

So, it is NATO's responsibility after all; they took on that responsibility the moment they decided to invade.

Why is anyone bringing wikileaks into this then? Or did WikiLeaks make it with all the informants moms?

EDIT: And you actually don't assume responsibility for people in your car, except minors....

[Beskar]

In this spirit of openness. I believe HoreTore should post his name, date of birth, his account number, bank sorting code, the number on the card, the name on the card, his address, and the last 3 digits of the cards security number.

Afterall, if you don't, you must be hiding something, like your funding of terrorist groups, and your subscription to "Maths is Sexy".

Freedom of Information, there is surely no negative consequences of you posting this information.

[Skullheadhq]

In this spirit of openness. I believe HoreTore should post his name, date of birth, his account number, bank sorting code, the number on the card, the name on the card, his address, and the last 3 digits of the cards security number.

Afterall, if you don't, you must be hiding something, like your funding of terrorist groups, and your subscription to "Maths is Sexy".

Freedom of Information, there is surely no negative consequences of you posting this information.

This is so terribly on the person.

[Brenus]

Is this information true? Because from “nothing new on these documents we didn’t know yet” it became “oh, the horrible traitor gave secret intelligence to the enemies” thing.

The one I read was just a Operational Report on a successful ambush by the Taliban against a Franco-US-Afghan operation, where the French being spare head suffered heavy casualties… Nothing really special…

Now, I watch numerous documentaries on Afghanistan and the faces of the Allies interlocutors are shown without any problems (not the translators) or the ones of the Afghan Army.
Doctors treating elderly, women, children, all of them are shown…

So, what make the eventual link of names different?

[Vladimir]

So, what make the eventual link of names different?

How about names, name of the father, village they live in...?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Is this information true? Because from “nothing new on these documents we didn’t know yet” it became “oh, the horrible traitor gave secret intelligence to the enemies” thing.

The one I read was just a Operational Report on a successful ambush by the Taliban against a Franco-US-Afghan operation, where the French being spare head suffered heavy casualties… Nothing really special…

Now, I watch numerous documentaries on Afghanistan and the faces of the Allies interlocutors are shown without any problems (not the translators) or the ones of the Afghan Army.
Doctors treating elderly, women, children, all of them are shown…

So, what make the eventual link of names different?

Most of the documents will probably be boring after action report stuff. Even with tens of thousands of released documents, the number of names/identifying characteristics divulged will be relatively small.

Horetore:

You'll note that my critique never said they didn't have a right to publish or a right to critique the policy. Both are fundamental to freedom of speech and the role of the 4th estate as a watchdog.

My critique said that 1) NATO has to do a better job of protecting such information, and 2) that I believe wikileaks failed to properly excise the names/characteristics of locals involved with NATO. The latter constitutes, in my mind, either very sloppy journalism (most likely answer here) or an active effort to support the enemy.

The press may well have a duty to oppose policies it believes are against the best interests of its readership or of humanity in general, and to be both active and vociferous in its efforts to expose "cover-ups" and present its viewers with the truth. It does NOT have the duty to aid and abet the enemy at whom the policy is aimed in order to combat that policy. All of our societies have accepted means of peacefully persuading our politicos to do something different -- including the influence of a free press on public opinion. THAT is the appropriate venue for wikileaks efforts.

You, to all appearances, oppose the conflict in Afghanistan. You are free to lobby your government by any legal means to withdraw Norwegian participation in the NATO effort there. If you feel strongly about the issue, it may well be your moral DUTY to do so. Were you to send money to support Taliban fighters in their struggle against NATO forces, you would have gone beyond the pale and acted criminally.