Wikileaks reveals identity of Afgan informants

[HoreTore]

I agree. I'm stunned that some members here are so callous. You are condoning the deaths of people here, with a cheery grin and a 'I just dare you to contradict me' attitude.

Civilians are killed or wounded by NATO forces all the time; that's okay, but I'm supposed to be all tear-up because 20-something informants are in danger of dying(unless they're already dead or they escape)? Puh-lease.

And might I note that people are also calling for the murder of the people working for WikiLeaks.... But that's okay too, right?

I guess that makes sense in the sphere of moral superiority, thank you for taking the time whining for all our sins.

People who work for one side in a conflict all know that it's very likely that they will have to flee at some point. Gawd, that's a basic fact of life, and something they must have considered when they chose to help NATO. As they still wanted to help NATO, it must mean that they would not object to relocating to another country.

[seireikhaan]

Civilians are killed or wounded by NATO forces all the time; that's okay, but I'm supposed to be all tear-up because 20-something informants are in danger of dying(unless they're already dead or they escape)? Puh-lease.

And might I note that people are also calling for the murder of the people working for WikiLeaks.... But that's okay too, right?

So informants and their families are killed all the time but I'm supposed to be all tear-up because some no name 20-something Afghani ventured to the wrong village?

Either you're soulless or a hypocrite who just came to the thread to vent and hate on teh evil west.

[HoreTore]

So informants and their families are killed all the time but I'm supposed to be all tear-up because some no name 20-something Afghani ventured to the wrong village?

When I said "20-something", I was referring to number, not age. Or in other words; you accept the death of 2000 but object to the death of 20.

Either you're soulless or a hypocrite who just came to the thread to vent and hate on teh evil west.

Hah!

doesn't this count as flame-baiting or something?

[Skullheadhq]

When I said "20-something", I was referring to number, not age. Or in other words; you accept the death of 2000 but object to the death of 20.

According to some 20 informants do outweight 2000 innocents including children and women, and if you disagree you're soulless.

doesn't this count as flame-baiting or something?

You're soulless and I'm a rich kid from another planet, we're such a good duo. We should form a team, you can be my sidekick.

[HoreTore]

Also; why is it a given that these people are going to die?

There are thousands and thousands of afghanis working for NATO, why are these people moved to the top of Talibans hit-list, above the governor who supports the troops, the truck driver bringing supplies, the police officer, et etc?

And why is it a given that the Taliban will actually succeed in killing these, as the governor, truck driver and police officer are all still alive?

[Skullheadhq]

Also; why is it a given that these people are going to die?

There are thousands and thousands of afghanis working for NATO, why are these people moved to the top of Talibans hit-list, above the governor who supports the troops, the truck driver bringing supplies, the police officer, et etc?

And why is it a given that the Taliban will actually succeed in killing these, as the governor, truck driver and police officer are all still alive?

The White House said it, it must be true, they never lied! Not even that time in Iraq, after all they did find WMDs and Saddam worked with Osama, it is proven!

Why do you assume they want to be here?

Because their life is in danger, you said it yourself!

[Andres]

Because their life is in danger, you said it yourself!

Thnx to your glorious absolute freedom of speech, they are now very much in danger indeed.

Not that publishing the names of these people has anything to do with freedom of speech, but let's not start nitpicking...

[seireikhaan]

Also; why is it a given that these people are going to die?

There are thousands and thousands of afghanis working for NATO, why are these people moved to the top of Talibans hit-list, above the governor who supports the troops, the truck driver bringing supplies, the police officer, et etc?

And why is it a given that the Taliban will actually succeed in killing these, as the governor, truck driver and police officer are all still alive?

Because these informants are, in many cases, regular afghans who don't like the taliban, or taliban defectors. One example.

One specific example cited by the paper is a report on an interview conducted by military officers of a potential Taliban defector. The militant is named, along with his father and the village in which they live.

Informants are either regular folks or turncoats. They live in small villages, big towns, all sorts of places. They don't live in the military camp, or behind the security guards. They live out, in the open. That's how being an informant works. The point is to blend in, be the last person you'd expect to be working for NATO.NATO doesn't send Johnny American as a spy against the Taliban- that'd just succeed in getting him shot on sight.

So, if you really do care about the lives of Afghans, you'd be quite concerned about this report. IMO.

[miotas]

How did he get the information in the first place? If the military has lax security and lets out sensitive information, aren't they just as much to blame? This Julian bloke is just a journalist who got hold of a good story.

[Myrddraal]

Civilians are killed or wounded by NATO forces all the time; that's okay, but I'm supposed to be all tear-up because 20-something informants are in danger of dying(unless they're already dead or they escape)? Puh-lease.

And might I note that people are also calling for the murder of the people working for WikiLeaks.... But that's okay too, right?

You're supposed to at least show some regret when anyone looses their life. It's not okay for civilians to be killed by NATO forces. It's not okay to murder WikiLeaks people. You know this, but you are being disgracefully callous with the lives of others.

[seireikhaan]

When I said "20-something", I was referring to number, not age. Or in other words; you accept the death of 2000 but object to the death of 20.

That's nice of you to sum up my views of afghanistan and its people for me

Hah!

doesn't this count as flame-baiting or something?

I'm not the one who's, at least, heavily implying that certain people's and their family's deaths would be less tragic than others.

[Andres]

Civilians are killed or wounded by NATO forces all the time; that's okay, but I'm supposed to be all tear-up because 20-something informants are in danger of dying(unless they're already dead or they escape)? Puh-lease.

Ok, so you don't give a damn about an additional 20 victims, not including their families. Fine.

And might I note that people are also calling for the murder of the people working for WikiLeaks.... But that's okay too, right?

Not me. I'm not calling for anyone's dead. But mister Wikileaks deserves a serious spanking.

People who work for one side in a conflict all know that it's very likely that they will have to flee at some point. Gawd, that's a basic fact of life, and something they must have considered when they chose to help NATO. As they still wanted to help NATO, it must mean that they would not object to relocating to another country.

Ehm, are you seriously thinking that the their enemies will now sit and wait for a couple of weeks to give these people and their families a fair chance to flee the country? For all we know, they're already dead as we speak.