What would you like to see in shogun2 Totalwar Multiplayer?

[Sp00n]

I'm not too concerned about the balance on maps, the original didnt have mirrored maps until they were user created if I recall, we used Totomi for a long time in 1v1s which in general favoured the defender due to its small central hills .
CA seem to give us one flat map these days anyway so I won't be expecting anything different, a foyer and fairly decent unit balance ie spears kill cav, spear weidling cav kill cav, swords kill spears and please dont over power the muskets thats all I ask for please.

[AMP]

Spoon, don't worry if STW2 is balanced and fun to play online as long as us oldies stick together we'll be able to slap around most of these trash talking kiddies. That maturity lvl is becoming the norm now of games, so us more mature older folks just need to stick together and we'll have some fun. :)
40 units if it's for each faction is a lot and will have me abit worried unless it's divided by eras early, mid, late early... which I hope not. It might be each faction has a few units of their own which is fine as long as you have caps. There is even talk of the doing downloadable units that you pay for... :(

It looks like you still control 20 units on the field which is alright I guess. I do have to laugh at all those people that said they can control all their units at once in the heat of battle going at normal speed... I have yet to see that in ANY of the vedios I watched of people playing MP. I could do it in STW when the game slowed down from someones connection or pc which I didn't mind in the heat of a battle against someone because it gave me more time pull off my tricks and place every unit where I wanted it at the right time. Slow speed is how I won a fair amount of 2v1 and 3v1 battles and this is the game slowing down NOT a low FPS which a lot of people don't know the difference.

Maps maps maps lets have them all unbalanced hilly to flatter mirror maps because it doesn't matter if you don't like the map don't play on it... pretty simple. Myself would like to play best of 2 or 3 matches on randomly generated maps and units having true LOS and have key points to take on the map, but that's me and I know that will never happen. I'll take whatever they can muster up map wise.

[Swoosh So]

Id agree us oldies have to stick together thats why in shogun2 you should be called Wolf_Amp :D

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Id agree us oldies have to stick together thats why in shogun2 you should be called Wolf_Amp :D

Why does every username sound good with that tag behind it!

[AggonyDuck]

To me as a clan leader, the most important part is a functional chat lobby. Without one, the clan's and the clan-based community struggle. It makes recruiting hard, organising friendly games with other clans almost impossible and it completely removes the feeling of a community. What has been the unique thing about Total War MP has previously been the small and tightly-knit community. Now all that is lost and the social aspects of Total War are almost non-existant. So please, implement a functional chat lobby.

[Jochi Khan]

To me as a clan leader, the most important part is a functional chat lobby. Without one, the clan's and the clan-based community struggle. It makes recruiting hard, organising friendly games with other clans almost impossible and it completely removes the feeling of a community. What has been the unique thing about Total War MP has previously been the small and tightly-knit community. Now all that is lost and the social aspects of Total War are almost non-existant. So please, implement a functional chat lobby.

I totally agree, implement a functional chat lobby.

[Togakure]

If some of us are sounding like squeaky wheels, it's because we feel strongly that a chat lobby is a crucial element of a TW multiplayer experience. We want the grease. The original STW is my favorite computer game of all time. STW MP was also my first MP experience, and no MP experience since has matched it. I continued to play MTW/VI despite the unit imbalances, because I loved the community and interaction so much that it was worth putting up with the game's MP limitations. Though it provided the platform, the game itself was not the key draw at that point.

In the long term, it was the human challenge, interaction, and community that brought me back day after day, night after night. Lacking the promise of interaction and community--rivalry and camaraderie--the better part of what made multiplayer so special would be lost. The chat lobby was a crucial piece of infrastructure; it enabled real-time communication between players and groups. STW even allowed the creation of sub-lobbies, which alleviated some of the problems inherent in the main lobby. Unless CA has some remarkable alternative approach (which the recent games have not delivered, based on what I've read here and there), they would do well to re-institute the chat lobby model.

If the specific benefits (and weaknesses) provided by a chat lobby were defined, they could be compared to any alternative interfaces/infrastructures. For example, the chat lobby could be compared--feature for feature, weakness for weakness--against the current infrastructure which few here seem to like. Pros and cons of each could be identified, and a list of "must-haves" (requirements) could be produced against which any alternative could be tested. I have no experience with the recent games, but some here do. Those with IT experience know what I'm talking about--what are the functional requirements that must be met by the multiplayer interface and communication infrastructure? What did the chat lobby have that the new interface doesn't, and vice versa? What functionality must be met in order to satisfy us no matter what interface/infrastructure is implemented?

[Swoosh So]

We also need more distinction between armies, currently if your france and your ally is france your units and army look exactly the same! thers not a single difference between their units and yours.

[Gregoshi]

We also need more distinction between armies, currently if your france and your ally is france your units and army look exactly the same! thers not a single difference between their units and yours.

But Swoosh, that would make the units ahistorical.

A thought occurred to me - is the request for a chat foyer realistic? 1) Are there current MP games that have chat foyers? Or is it an outdated concept in 2010? 2) Is it even possible under Steam?

[Sp00n]

Id agree us oldies have to stick together thats why in shogun2 you should be called Wolf_Amp :D

Why does every username sound good with that tag behind it!

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Its always been more fun having Wolfies as foe's tbh, hopefully most of your old players will return, and also hopefully so will many of the old Fearful Ways clan Amp included .

[Swoosh So]

mmmmmmmm nice to be wolves foes i guess but also in clan we had some really amazing games on the training for cwb/cwc matches, i remember countless games of me and kocmoc vs poalai ale training for the tournies that were really nice. And times have changed that whole old community will now be a minority, wont be room for as many of the old clans as there was. UNITE the clans i say or was that mel gibson?

Yeah the offers on for amp to join as a wolf cub ;) but ofc he will have to hunt spoon in best of 3 :D Tbh im more interested in playing with old pals in a good game than anything else but if i will probably get compeditive if the games any good.

Btw about the mirror maps, i dont see where your coming from as 1 side has to attack and 1 defend so it doesent matter 1 bit if a maps mirror or not and does not effect the balance at all, what you have to do in order to make a balanced map is make a map where the attackers movement can upset in someway the defenders position ala nagashima where the defender could sit on the hill but if you took the woods to their left you gained the better firing position.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

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Its always been more fun having Wolfies as foe's tbh, hopefully most of your old players will return, and also hopefully so will many of the old Fearful Ways clan Amp included .

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And times have changed that whole old community will now be a minority, wont be room for as many of the old clans as there was. UNITE the clans i say or was that mel gibson?

Have to. Besides, everyone I started with back on VI in March of 2004 is gone but 1 other person. I was 11 when I started, 8 days before my 12th birthday. 18 now, jesus, I'm old.