Islamic group to build mosque adjacent to ground zero

[Lemur]

the developrs declined to comment, that's odd for people who want dialogue.

Mayor Bloomberg also declined to comment for that article, so he must be evil too. Seriouly, how can you slam them for avoiding comment to a Rupert Murdoch paper when they're in the middle of a whipped-up firestorm?

Sounds to me like Patterson is doing the right thing. Although a muslim-friendly gay bar still rocks.

[Hax]

he needs to be put in a camp somewhere and left to rot.

Wait, that reminds me of something

[Fragony]

Mayor Bloomberg also declined to comment for that article, so he must be evil too. Seriouly, how can you slam them for avoiding comment to a Rupert Murdoch paper when they're in the middle of a whipped-up firestorm?

Sounds to me like Patterson is doing the right thing. Although a muslim-friendly gay bar still rocks.

It's hilarious, but if they decide to see it as an act of agression (and they would be right, it is, that gay-bar is a big screw you) and play innocence lost the argument turns in their favor, funny as hell but not very smart. If you think it's a good idea that put a that gay-bar next to it you must already have some doubts about this mosque being what they say it is, as that would be pretty disrespectful if you don't care about the mosque's location.

[Lemur]

If you think it's a good idea that put that gay-bar next to it you must already have some doubts about this mosque being what they say it is, as that would be pretty disrespectful if you don't care about the mosque's location.

I find your attempts to summarize my position amusing. Not very accurate, but good enertainment value.

I believe in the Bill of Rights and the primacy of property rights. You might want to read up on both before typing again.

Rauf has every right to create a mosque in a property which he or his foundation own. And someone else has every right to create a gay bar next to it. This is fighting freedom with freedom, rather than reverting to some sort of tub-thumping populist panic, the mode your quoted bloggers seem to prefer.

[Fragony]

I find your attempts to summarize my position amusing. Not very accurate, but good enertainment value.

I believe in the Bill of Rights and the primacy of property rights. You might want to read up on both before typing again.

Rauf has every right to create a mosque in a property which he or his foundation own. And someone else has every right to create a gay bar next to it. This is fighting freedom with freedom, rather than reverting to some sort of tub-thumping populist panic, the mode your quoted bloggers seem to prefer.

Sure he does, but would you normally go all rofltov if they build a gaybar for muslims next to a mosque.

[Lemur]

Sure he does, but would you normally go all rofltov if they build a gaybar for muslims next to a mosque.

Your use of pronouns is confusing at best. I'm fine with gay bars next to mosques, and I'd like to see them next to the Westboro Baptist Church as well. My chief complaint against Islam (as it is currently practiced in most of the world) has to do with the treatment of women and gays, so let's put some battered women's shelters next to Rauf's mosque as well.

That said, you're getting sidetracked. Remember, this is all about how Rauf's mosque is a secret triumphalist plot to humiliate America. Or something like that, depending on which hysterical panic-monger you're giving credence to.

[Skullheadhq]

I'm fine with gay bars next to mosques, and I'd like to see them next to the Westboro Baptist Church as well.

I would love to see that happen.

[Fragony]

Sorry if my my English is kinda lacking Lemur, I just don't need it all that much. How do you know how someone pronounces what is written anyway. My French is much better.

[rvg]

Sure he does, but would you normally go all rofltov if they build a gaybar for muslims next to a mosque.

I remember Jon Stewart covering a similar event: a group of muslims bult a large mosque somewhere in the backwoods of rural Texas. Their neighbor, a cow farmer, didn't take very kindly to that and promptly switched from raising cows to raising pigs. Next thing you know, there were weekly pig races every Friday to coinside with the prayer schedule. Now, raising pigs in NYC is not practical, but like Lemur mentioned, a gay bar would do very nicely.

[Fragony]

I remember Jon Stewart covering a similar event: a group of muslims bult a large mosque somewhere in the backwoods of rural Texas. Their neighbor, a cow farmer, didn't take very kindly to that and promptly switched from raising cows to raising pigs. Next thing you know, there were weekly pig races every Friday to coinside with the prayer schedule. Now, raising pigs in NYC is not practical, but like Lemur mentioned, a gay bar would do very nicely.

That ones are the people who are from whateversta they were just born there, they don't get millions from very shady people. USA is being just as naive as Europe.