Proposition 8 declared unconstitutional

[Fragony]

Who is kicking in who's door, don't have to make a point out of marriage, leave that to the people who value these traditions.

[Beskar]

Who is kicking in who's door, don't have to make a point out of marriage, leave that to the people who value these traditions.

Not really, since there are many establishments which don't stop gay marriage. This isn't about forcing a church who doesn't allow gay marriage, to do gay marriages, this is about allowing a church who believes in gay marriage to do gay marriages.

As I said, remove the legal status of marriages and the 'government social enginneering' and just allow the churches to decide for themselves. Seperate that State from those Churches.

[rory_20_uk]

Seperate that State from those Churches.

Oh, the irony...

[Beskar]

Oh, the irony...

I thought some people might like that.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I was going to make a reply, but TCV beat me to it, saying it better then I could anyway.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I find the current fashion for "accepting" homosexuality somewhat amusing, it's been 40 odd years now and the wheels are starting to come off the movement a bit. Mainstream Christianity has shown it isn't willing to budge beyond a certain point (In America Anglicanism isn't mainstream, it splits between right and left) and increasingly there is an awareness that homosexual relationships simply do not obey the same rules as heterosexual ones.

In view of that, I expect the movement for homosexual "marriage" to stall in ten years, and it will never be accepted by the majority of religious people now opposed to it.

Crucially, being in a homosexual relationship is something you do, not something you are, like "being" Black is. On the other hand, "being" homosexual as a nature is something you are.

Dean Jeffrey Johns has written a book on how homosexual and heterosexual relationships are often not of the same value, and how he feels they should be. He is somewhat of a lone voice at the moment though.

[PanzerJaeger]

I find the current fashion for "accepting" homosexuality somewhat amusing, it's been 40 odd years now and the wheels are starting to come off the movement a bit. Mainstream Christianity has shown it isn't willing to budge beyond a certain point (In America Anglicanism isn't mainstream, it splits between right and left) and increasingly there is an awareness that homosexual relationships simply do not obey the same rules as heterosexual ones.

In view of that, I expect the movement for homosexual "marriage" to stall in ten years, and it will never be accepted by the majority of religious people now opposed to it.

Interesting. I percieve things completely differently. Acceptance of homosexuality and homosexual marriage seems to be ascendent while religious influence - not just pertaining to this issue but all aspects of life - is declining rapidly.

Just out of curiousity, can you explain the differences you described between the rules in hetero and homo relationships?

[The Celtic Viking]

Who is kicking in who's door, don't have to make a point out of marriage, leave that to the people who value these traditions.

Is this in response to my post? Because... I have no idea what you're talking about.