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    How can social conservatives be against this? Like abortion, this will further reduce Democrat voting base. We don't need gay people pretending to be straight, having children, and raising them to be Democrats.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    We don't need gay people pretending to be straight, having children, and raising them to be Democrats.
    This statement is despicable on multiple levels, and reflects poorly on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    This statement is despicable on multiple levels, and reflects poorly on you.
    It's interesting you quoted this instead of the abortion part. Anyway, not my words, and RVG is right.

    But yes, onto SCOTUS. PJ's numbers are interesting but not entirely unexpected given the baby boomer vs. Gen X dynamic. I'm interested to see how that opinion changes over one's life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Anyway, not my words, and RVG is right.
    Another counter-factual, nonsensical statement, although this time you manage to avoid slandering whole segments of the population, so we must be grateful for little mercies.

    You posted what you posted.

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    Generally gay people pretending to be straight tend to be the most hardcore conservatives. Senator Larry Craig comes to mind.
    Indeed. You speak truth. I feel sorry for people living in the closet, but that does not excuse them for the damage they inflict on others.
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    Should 2 heterosexual male best friends be allowed to get married?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Should 2 heterosexual male best friends be allowed to get married?
    There are plenty of sexless, childless heterosexuals marriges out there and in a decade all these fears about the family unit collapsing will prove to be unfounded and hollow
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    So, what's your answer? Should I take that to mean that any consensual 2 person relationship should gain tax and SS benefits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Should 2 heterosexual male best friends be allowed to get married?
    Should two heterosexual male and female best friends be allowed to get married?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Should 2 heterosexual male best friends be allowed to get married?
    That would be bad, but are we really going to check up on people to see if they are "really married" the way we do with immigrants? Actually wasn't this the plot of some adam sandler movie?

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    That Sandler movie pissed me off. How dare the government recognize the love between 2 men who diddle one another and not the love between 2 men who are best friends, or the "like" between 2 single men who have a mutual interest in sharing SS benefits as an old age hedge with one another.

    BTW, why would that be "bad"?

    My point is: "How dare me for limiting marriage between 2 heterosexual people of different gender? How dare you for limiting marriage to 2 people who are romantically attracted to one another!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    How can social conservatives be against this? Like abortion, this will further reduce Democrat voting base. We don't need gay people pretending to be straight, having children, and raising them to be Democrats.
    Generally gay people pretending to be straight tend to be the most hardcore conservatives. Senator Larry Craig comes to mind.
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