Proposition 8 declared unconstitutional

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Surely our laws are based on consent? C'mon, things are the wrong way round here. I'm supposed to say we get our laws from the Ten Commandments, before someone more sensible points out our laws are derived from the idea of consent.

Gay people have every right to their life and their property, and to do what they want in their bedroom. But why would you give them legal privileges for it?

It is not the business of the state to be granting legal contracts to people in order to encourage a certain sort of lifestyle, be it a monogamous relationship between a man and a woman, or two men.

Our government is based upon consent, not our laws. Listen you are being ignored because you repeated the same broken idea over and over again "It's not the government's business.". It's the government's business to protect Americans, and gays and lesbians believe it or not count as Americans. They didn't have the same ability to have their love declared offical as heteros do, so that's discrimination, so the government came in and protected them. If you want to spout about financial incentives toward couples being discrimination against single people go ahead, but that statement is so backwards I'm going to continue ignoring it. It's the same as shouting that welfare for poor is discriminating against the rich and successful since they don't qualify for it and never will. Couples who fall in love get financial benefits because gee what usually happens when people fall in love, they have children, whether it be through procreation or adoption and they need help financially supporting those kids. If you seriously think that people are going to get married and start having kids because they want lower taxes and not because they love each other then I'm just going to ignore you the rest of the thread.

I'm not even going to touch upon the fact that I think your whole argument for the abolition of marriage is simply a response to the fact that your exclusive holy club is no longer exclusive or limited to Christians so you want to scrap the entire thing so nobody gets it. That's even laughable though because if marriage was completely disregarded by the state, you would still have a (similar) service popping up that is purely religious discriminating against others and you would still be in this situation anyway. If we have determined that your "property rights" as a business owner do not trump anti-discrimination laws against blacks, jews and anyone else hated in this world then your religious freedom doesn't seem to a proper defense against those laws either.