Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
Well they can't perform the primary function of producing children, and I still do not believe having two fathers/mothers is good for children. But otherwise, yes, homosexual couples can do all the rest of the stuff. But why not make do with a civil partnership? Everything on your list could just as easily be performed by any two people living together in any sort of relationship, the question is why must it then be granted the legal status of a marriage?
The primary function isn't producing children. That's the logical hopskotch that pvc went through where he claimed infertile women shouldn't be allowed to marry. As for calling it a civil partnership, that's seamus's point too, so...


Civil unions required of all who would claim/enjoy the legal benefits of such a union and marriage reserved to the dictates of the various faith groups would seem to be an equitable re-structuring. But it won't happen that way. Hardliners on both sides of the issue abhor such a compromise and want victory thrown in the face of their opposition. A bit too much "so NyahQ take that!" going both ways if you ask me.
A lot of opposition to civil unions is because the proposed laws regarding them have left many rights off the table, and have often not been applicable outside of the state that granted them (I believe).

Atheists can get married right? But isn't that non sacramental?

Essentially, religions have no more right to object to non-holy marriages than they do to atheists and non-christians celebrating christmas. They don't have to call it x-mas, or "civil gift giving holiday". I can't help but find it a petty objection. You have to live and let live more than that.