Proposition 8 declared unconstitutional

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-07-2012, 22:45

The ruling has been upheld by the federal appeals court. On to the Supreme Court.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 02-08-2012, 00:02

I would be surprised if the Supreme Court took it. The ruling by the federal appeals court is very narrow and only specifically concerns the state of California, not the status of same sex marriage for the entire country. Prop 8 supporters would gain more by leaving it as is instead of risking a nationwide SCOTUS ruling.

**Whacker** · 02-08-2012, 03:50

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

What logical hopsctoch?

A man's inability to perform on the wedding Night is also grounds for annullment, or did you just ignore that?

Marriage is a legal contract, intended to be indisoluable, designed to provide a stable environment for the couple's children, and to afford those children legal protection.

Wrong. Marriage is a method for two people to join themselves legally, which affords them certain legal rights and privileges.

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

I agree that minds have to be changed as well as laws, but keep in mind that right now somewhere in this country a gay man or woman is being denied visitation access to his or her partner in the hospital. I read a particularly compelling story where a woman was barred from being at her partner of 23 year’s side as she lay dying of cancer.

This is all conceptual to us. Is it constitutional or isn’t it? To these people though, it is a stark reality. They’re living the discrimination, and I can definitely see why they would feel like second class citizens.

Indeed, I hear stories like that quite often, and it does become reality for me when I hear the sadness and pain in my friend's voices. Treating this like it's not an issues of rights is ridiculous.

**Veho Nex** · 02-08-2012, 10:00

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

The ruling has been upheld by the federal appeals court. On to the Supreme Court.

CLEAR! *Shocks thread* It's alive!!!

**Whacker** · 02-08-2012, 10:45

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

The ruling has been upheld by the federal appeals court. On to the Supreme Court.

I've read a few op-ed bits from different places that tend to agree this probably won't make it to the US Federal Supreme Court. The actual legal issues that were ruled on seem to be pretty specific to the California state legislative and legal processes. Guess we will wait and see.