Proposition 8 declared unconstitutional

[Rhyfelwyr]

@Rhyfelwyr: Your arguments seem to me to be against the benefits of marriage, not marriage itself. I think that was the disconnect between us; yeah, I can agree that some of the benefits of marriage (such as tax breaks) shouldn't be there, as I disagree with the justification for them. I don't think I would agree with removing them all, but that's a different discussion though, isn't it?

But surely the point in state-recognised marriages is that they give these benefits, that's the only point in having them.

Speaking from my experience of these fair isles, your earlier impression was more correct. I have absolutely no idea how PVC gets that idea... but then maybe our views dictate our social crowds?

This is probably true to an extent, most people I know are what are termed 'Huns' (<---everything beyond no. 1 on that list, no. 4 made me lol), they are into the whole loyalist culture etc.

But even then I know people in the Evangelical circles (another sub-culture surrounding Christianity) and those churches are growing at an impressive rate.

But yeah, the rank and file of the established churches now don't bother to attend every Sunday. Although there is still a surprisingly high belief in God with these types of people, they would be very liberal in their theology.