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    Here are few portions from the PDF that will serve as sufficient to show the point of why Prop 8 is wrong:
    Honestly, I don't see the relevance of most of those points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    Honestly, I don't see the relevance of most of those points.
    The point of all those quotes, is that the judge ultimately ruled that every single argument put forward by the proponents of prop 8 had no rational basis. Let me repeat that, they were all illogical. All the stereotypes such as gays are promiscuous are false and simply fodder for the bigots to justify why gays should not have marriage. EVERY argument was rejected and at no point in the document did the judge say that the prop 8 proponents had any facts on their side but repeatedly declared that the facts were not on their side. If you don't see the relevence of the quotes then you are not knowledgable enough to even enter the discussion. If you want you can ask me what each quote means.


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    All the stereotypes such as gays are promiscuous are false
    See, I don't care if they're true or not- it's irrelevant. Nor do I care if homosexual couples are capable of falling in love the same way as heterosexual couples. None of that should matter when determining how people can enter into a government recognized contractual relationship.

    The question is whether the government can extend recognition to certain people based on their behavior. I didn't see that addressed anywhere- which is why I think this will probably be reversed when it gets to the SCOTUS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    See, I don't care if they're true or not- it's irrelevant. Nor do I care if homosexual couples are capable of falling in love the same way as heterosexual couples. None of that should matter when determining how people can enter into a government recognized contractual relationship.

    The question is whether the government can extend recognition to certain people based on their behavior. I didn't see that addressed anywhere- which is why I think this will probably be reversed when it gets to the SCOTUS.
    You don't even understand the question. The question is whether the government can deny recognition to certain people based upon their behavior. This judge says no, under the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause. Maybe that's why you are lost and don't understand what the 138 page document is about.


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