The Republican Party has finally gotten to reinvent itself. I'm so proud.

[PanzerJaeger]

Eh, I think Romney is almost as big a flip flopper as Kerry was. His rhetoric often runs counter to his actions. The only thing you can count on him to say is what will get him ahead politically. Smart guy, but I don't trust him.

He also hasn't been able to come up with a plausible difference between what he did in Massachusetts and what Obama has done in terms of health care. It doesn't completely discredit him in my eyes as the people of the state he was governing wanted it by a pretty wide margin, but it definitely doesn't help either.

What do you think of Pawlenty? He seems to check all of the boxes, but I haven't wikied him yet to get the dirt.

[a completely inoffensive name]

It's not a reinvention when it's the same people in key positions within the organization. This is simply a re branding unless these new candidates take charge from the neoconservatives that have been talking on Fox News since 2000.

[Skullheadhq]

The Republican party reinvented itself? Are they liberal again?
Also, what's the hate against trade unions in America? Without it you'll probably be in the same working conditions as in the Industrial Revolution.

[Lemur]

Also, what's the hate against trade unions in America? Without it you'll probably be in the same working conditions as in the Industrial Revolution.

In fairness to Republicans, we Americans have really screwed the union thing up. I know, I know, it works fine in Japan and South Korea and Germany, but somehow we got the whole union concept upside down. I'm not sure how we did it.

Most of the things we thank unions for are now matters of law (no 90-hour workweeks, child labor, etc.), so maybe our unions just got lost once they won. Or something. I don't really know, and haven't studied the subject in depth. But I do know that other countries make the union thing work, and we don't.

[jabarto]

so maybe our unions just got lost once they won. Or something.

Not quite. I know it's common for people to assume that unions just phased out because they weren't needed anymore, but the fact that productivity has skyrocketed over the last 40 years while wages have largely stagnated turns that theory on its head. The real reason unions don't hold much sway is because they've had their power forcibly stripped from them by conservative leglislation; i'ts not like America has some unique trait that stops unioins from being doable like they are everywhere else.

[Centurion1]

Bull jabarto. Unions have way to much power and its not good. Its a legitimate economic belief unions aren't needed when workers gain a voice and protection.

in other news I like bobby jindall.

[Crazed Rabbit]

The real reason unions don't hold much sway is because they've had their power forcibly stripped from them by conservative leglislation; i'ts not like America has some unique trait that stops unioins from being doable like they are everywhere else.

What laws, exactly, are you talking about?

The reason unions are nigh on useless in the US is because they are greedy for power and money and influence. Workers left them because they realized unions protect useless people with seniority at the expense of those who are more competent.

Teacher's unions protect those who sexually harass students and make it impossible to fire them in some cases.

Police unions protect those dangerously incompetent or violent.

CR

[a completely inoffensive name]

I don't know what is worse, working in a place with corrupt unionizing or working in a country without unions period.

[jabarto]

Bull jabarto. Unions have way to much power and its not good. Its a legitimate economic belief unions aren't needed when workers gain a voice and protection.

in other news I like bobby jindall.

How the hell do you think they get that protection in the first place?

in the US is because they are greedy for power and money and influence.

Just like the employers they oppose! Isn't it funny how that works?

Workers left them because they realized unions protect useless people with seniority at the expense of those who are more competent.

Unions don't exist to determine guilt. They exist to ensure that workers are treated fairly during the termination process.

Teacher's unions protect those who sexually harass students and make it impossible to fire them in some cases.

Where do people keep getting this stupid notion that unions make it impossible to fire people? Again, they only make sure that the employer can't cut corners in firing them.