Quote Originally Posted by A Nerd View Post
Another time, when the civil war broke out, the other Roman factions hadn't reached the Marion reforms but I had, talk about an uneventful civil war! That only happened once though.
Something about that statement doesn't ring true to me. The Marius reforms occur once and for all for all Roman factions. My guess is one of three things may have happened - (1) you simply faced Roman armies in the civil war that still retained pre-Marian troops and didn't notice otherwise. Or, (2) there's a bug in the game I was unaware of. Or, (3) it's possible, I suppose, if the Civil War started before you triggered the Marius event, you could have thrown the game a curve and the other Roman factions could have been cut out of participating in the event when it did happen for you. I've never played a game, however, where the Civil War got underway before the Marius event. It would be interesting to see what would happen in that case.

The Marian reforms occur whenever the first Roman faction that has a city in the Italian peninsula that reaches a population of 24,000 and completes the construction of the administration building for that level. The only exception to that rule is Messina in Sicily since it starts out as a Roman city for the Scipii. So, it can also trigger the Marius event. The Roman factions do not each have their own separate Marius reform event.

The earliest I've ever seen the Marius event occur for me is in 236 BC. But your triggering city has to grow unhindered by plague and bad governorship, and you have to be conscientious about building farms and public health buildings like sewers and public baths. In the case of the Julii, they have an extra help in their temple of Ceres. When I play the Brutii, it's Croton that sets it off for me.