So no mod support...

[edyzmedieval]

There will not be mod support for Shogun 2, as some had hoped. This is confirmed from "Angry Joe's" notes in interview with Kieran Brigden, which he discusses in the second video below at about 5:55.

http://angryjoeshow.com/2010/06/shog...nterview-demo/

So we can say goodbye to any improvements whatsoever. It's only DLC's and patches.

VERY disappointing.

[Martok]

Well I don't see how that's any different that with previous TW titles. The only difference is that at least CA's being honest about it this time. Better that, than continually lie about promise mod tools and then never make them available....

[Gregoshi]

Interesting interview and commentary. Some new information here but all the commentary on the demo seem to focus on the same things. I'd love to know if combat feels more like the original STW or more like RTW - visuals aside.

[Hooahguy]

ho-hum...

[Intranetusa]

The people at CA are similar to the bast*rds at Activision.

It took serious balls for Infinity Ward people to quit like that after they got fed up with Activison's bullsh*t.

[pevergreen]

The people at CA are similar etc etc

Just saying, forum rules require entire word to be asterix'd out, not just a letter.

That aside, I don't want video interviews, but like Martok said, at least they are out and saying it. I really should take that proposal of mine to them...

[caravel]

It's only DLC's and patches.

Which is no doubt the main objective. By blocking modding attempts, DLC is more attractive, etc.

[hoom]

If the game is good out of the box I'm ok with this.
I never played any Shogun or Medieval mods (though now I think of it I have the idea that the last patch for Shogun was 'community'?)

If however the default game is poorly balanced like RTW/M2TW/Empire, it means no sale because there is no opportunity for that to be fixed.

[Monk]

If the game is good out of the box I'm ok with this.

What he said.

[Furunculus]

crying shame.

[A Nerd]

This seems somewhat unfortunate. I personally like vanilla and am quite satisfied with what it has to offer, been like that with all the TW titles. But I do feel some sympathy for those who like mods and like to make them. I would think that CA could make more money selling the game to people who will buy it solely for modding it or for mods made available to it vs. DLC, but what do I know?

[Crazed Rabbit]

If the game is good out of the box I'm ok with this.

What he said.

And if I could fly I'd be okay with a lack of airplanes.

CR

[Nelson]

Mod support or no, Shogun 2 has got to be a bit of a gamble for CA.

Despite being such a ground breaking game, Shogun: Total War suffered from limited appeal due to the Japanese setting. The franchise expanded a lot with subsequent releases thanks to their Eurocentric familiarity. CA has got to be hoping that the fan-base has become so large that a return to the east will do well and not result in a sales slump. We shall see.

[Swoosh So]

Yes id have to agree its a big gamble from ca, rome2 would have been a much safer bet.
I wonder if theyre banking on big sales in japan itself as it surely would not be hard for sega to market it there.

[lars573]

Yes id have to agree its a big gamble from ca, rome2 would have been a much safer bet.
I wonder if theyre banking on big sales in japan itself as it surely would not be hard for sega to market it there.

Not unless they port it to the PS3 or the Wii. IE a platform that Japanese gamers will actually use.

[Togakure]

I would hazard to guess that the majority of the Japanese gaming market would prefer something more "exotic" from their point of view than a game based on their own history. I think they'd be especially sensitive to any historical inaccuracies too, particularly given that the producer is a westerner. Hence, I don't think the Japan would be one of CA's primary target markets with this one.

Though I'm not sure why they chose Shogun 2 over Rome 2, they'll be able to re-use much of the historical research they did for either of the original games in a re-make. This allows them to focus resources on other aspects of the game. This is a win for those of us too, who enjoyed either of the original games, provided the results of said focus are significant.

[Skullheadhq]

historical research

Rome (2)

pick one.

[Nelson]

My understanding of the Japanese market is that they don’t do PC games that much. It’s consoles for them. Unlike Korea.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Could really care less. I only buy TW for the MP side of it, not for the mods. I think the only mods I played for TW in the past 10 years I been doing Total War games, SP or MP, would be :



Pike & Musket (MTW/VI)
Samurai Warlords (MTW/VI)
NTW 2 (RTW/BI)



That's about it. At least CA isn't going to lie this time around!

[Swoosh So]

The more i think about this the more it bothers me, i cannot remember the last totalwar game that kept me interested in the campaign more than a week without me modding files myself or grabbing somone elses mods, Infact when i think back the standard campaigns with the exception of maybe kingdoms were pretty crap out of the box and dident improve much at all with the patches. Im in no doubt ill be bored of the campaign ca offer within a week and being unable to mod it i wonder if i should actually buy the game. I really dont expect to see a mp chat foyer in shogun 2 so i most likely wont be interested in the mp either. Ah well much ado about nothing untill sega or ca announce if they will include a foyer or not. Someone do me a favour and contact me on msn if they ever announce they will cause untill then theres really nothing else they can say to peak my interest.

[rory_20_uk]

FFS. Talk about ingratitude. Modders have earned them a lot of money as without them there's at least 2 game I'd never have bothered getting.

The very least I'd expect these days is for as much as possible to be in text / xml files which would not hinder performance and is easily accessable. If Civ can increase modding in each iteration I'd expect these... persons to do the same.

Is it something simpler? Are they getting embarrassed at how poor the game looks after modders have worked on it and the limitations are only those that are hard coded?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Oh good, I've got a lot of games to catch up on anyway, this will make the schedule easier.

[Swoosh So]

Problem with no mods is the mod community has gone from basic to really advanced and will be ruined.
Just check this mod its absolute quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P06M...eature=related
Will be keeping a close eye on whatever game these modders switch too if totalwar no longer gives mod support.