V&V OOC/Signup Thread I

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

The link to the save doesn't work I'm afraid.

Sorry I'm such a n00b but how does this work now? Do I need to pm you something other than "I attack Lothar Zirn" to get things rolling?

The only difference is that instead of interacting with the game directly, you do it by sending orders through me so I can resolve them simultaneously. This eliminates unfair advantages from someone taking the save first, without prolonging the turn any further like the normal rules. Though I could allow construction and recruitment in settlements to take place as normal, if that makes things easier. Also I've updated the save in the Saves Thread.

but if we're going to battle immediately there's no time for construction and recruitment right? I mean when I entered Genoa I declared war and intended to immediately attack Lothar. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something.

EDIT: I don't mean to come across like I'm picking holes in everything, but I'm just really confused about what is supposed to be happening...effectively 18 months have now passed since I entered Genoa and we haven't had a battle yet? It's a bit weird...also he has been able to spend some of the money I don't think he should have been able to get in the first place!

Anyway, Happy Easter, hope you're having a nice long weekend.

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

but if we're going to battle immediately there's no time for construction and recruitment right? I mean when I entered Genoa I declared war and intended to immediately attack Lothar. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something.

EDIT: I don't mean to come across like I'm picking holes in everything, but I'm just really confused about what is supposed to be happening...effectively 18 months have now passed since I entered Genoa and we haven't had a battle yet? It's a bit weird...also he has been able to spend some of the money I don't think he should have been able to get in the first place!

Anyway, Happy Easter, hope you're having a nice long weekend.

I apologize for the inconvenience, but I really wanted to try out these new rules. I think we can all agree that the initial Civil War dragged on for far too long, and as it stands those rules are still in place. No one will be able to recruit any new units before the battle starts. As for the 18 months... That's so heavily abstracted in this game that I don't think it can count for anything. The characters aged six months in those eighteen, for example.

Map is posted, along with an updated word document with smaller unit cards sized for the map.

Originally Posted by Cecil XIX

No one will be able to recruit any new units before the battle starts.

Where did the ships come from then? This whole scenario is predicated on there being some 'hesitancy' which allows him to 'slip away' yet again and hire merc ships. I don't agree at all, there was no hesitation - I marched into Genoa and immediately declared war on him fully intending there to be an immediate battle.

I don't think there should be any chance of escape onto ships. We should fight, straight up, winner takes all.

EDIT: also, I got to Genoa second, so if anything he should have to fight his way through me to get out. (Like he should have had to do at Milan, after he should have had to fight his way through me to get in).

Seeing all the resentment my behaviour seems to bring, let's just declare that upon Leopold's entry into Genoa, Lothar surrenders unconditionnally and be done with it...

Why is there a problem? The way I understood Cecil's post and battle-thread, Lothar has to fight to get out, right? So what's the deal?

Originally Posted by _Tristan_

Seeing all the resentment my behaviour seems to bring, let's just declare that upon Leopold's entry into Genoa, Lothar surrenders unconditionnally and be done with it...

No, please, lets not. The ships might need an explanation/justification, but I don't think that we should let OOC issues influence IC decisions. If you still wish to surrender, then you should do it because that makes the most sense to Lothar, and not to appease someone OOC.

In truth, it makes sense both IC and OOC... So let's not bother with this...

I'm sorry Cecil had to go through so much work but I don't think this could work out... If ever Lothar managed (through luck or skill) to escape the Genoan trap, it would leave Phonics (and others as well, perhaps) with a sour taste...

I'll try and have an IC post up to explain the surrender...