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    I understand fully the arguments made against the Marshall position. These past years it's use has seemed limited, and most have been just seeking his permission for themselves to hire mercenaries privately. I think this may have been a result of a lack of resources. I would see the Marshallship strengthened for this next 15 years until another Diet. Then could we see if the problem is the position itself, or merely circumstances. If it fails again I would gladly second and vote for any edicts to diminish it.
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    I second edict 4.3
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    I second Edict 4.3
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    Kaiser Heinrich:

    Upon further reflection, I would be amenable to the Prinz's Reichsmarschall proposal if the phrase "but shall have first refusal on their hire in priority to other nobles" is omitted from the final legislation. This way we would be able to totally separate the Marshal's powers over the hiring of mercenaries - which we can mostly agree has been a failure - with the Marshal's new powers, which is more of a centralized defense force than anything it was previously.

    In addition, I hereby award the province of Innsbruck to the Duchy of Austria. This is the result of a private discussion between the Prinz and myself and we have both agreed that the province will be given to Bavaria upon that Duchy's eventual reestablishment.
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    The Prinz stands once more, inclining his head to the Kaiser.

    So be it mein Kaiser. In order to gain your support I shall amend the legislation as you propose, the amended form to be as follows:

    Charter Amendment 4.1b: The "Marshal" section of Charter provision 6.12 is amended to read as the following (changes are in bold):

    Reichsmarschall:
    Term: Self-nominated and elected every normal Diet Session.
    Powers:
    (1) The Reichsmarshall is no longer to have sole authority to recruit mercenaries.
    (2) The Reichsmarshall shall have the power to recruit troops from the recruitment facilities of any Duchy, to be paid for and supported from the Reichsmarschall's budget, with the consent of the settlement owner.
    (2) Can recruit and disband mercenary and regular regiments in the Reichsmarschall's army, can move mercenary and regular regiments to and from armies or assign to/remove from an Elector
    (3) Recruitment and upkeep are paid for by a pool of funds which is sustained by an income tax on all electors automatically paid each turn and by a flat tax on the proceeds from sacking captured settlements and ransoming enemies.


    Penalties:
    (1) If the pool runs out, mercenaries are paid for out of the Marshal's treasury.
    (2) The 'Mercenary Tax' rate will be a fixed 10% rate levied against the income of all Electors. A further tax is to be levied of 50% on any sacking proceeds and on ransom proceeds to support the Reichsmarshall's budget.
    May I assume the legislation receives the same seconders or do we need to hear from them individually again?

    And I thank you good Kaiser for the award of Innsbruck. This issue no longer needs to go to the vote.
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    Kaiser Heinrich:

    I believe in cases of amending legislation seconders are required to restate their support for said legislation. In any case, you will need one less, as I hereby second CA 4.1b.
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    I too second CA 4.1b
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