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    To be mafia you have to have at least 1 partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    To be mafia you have to have at least 1 partner.
    Exception: mini-games with a single mafia, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    Exception: mini-games with a single mafia, I guess.
    They are serial killers really

    I suppose they are often called mafia. And serial killers aren't third party unless there is a mafia group. So that makes them...eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    I wasn't sure about The Jester Game, where Renata was the only anti-town player, a Jester who had to be lynched to win. I marked Renata as Neutral (Neutral Victory), but since she was the only enemy, should it be considered a Mafia Victory?
    I would consider myself the mafia in that game. It was a nonstandard game, but I was the only person with a non-town win.

    40% winning percentage sounds about right, given that so many games have more than two factions.

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    Any plans of taking this back to 2006? Ya know to get a TRUE statistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Any plans of taking this back to 2006? Ya know to get a TRUE statistic.
    Yes, I'm going all the way if I can, but not sure how long it will take. I've started 2009, 62 games done up to April 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    Yes, I'm going all the way if I can, but not sure how long it will take. I've started 2009, 62 games done up to April 2009.
    Somewhere in this subforum, Beefy made a similar thread that had 2006-2009.
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    Be mindful of that some players have changed names over the years.
    I was Sigurd Fafnesbane the first years on this forum and Yaseikhaan has changed names many times over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Be mindful of that some players have changed names over the years.
    I was Sigurd Fafnesbane the first years on this forum and Yaseikhaan has changed names many times over.
    greaterkamimakeiyaseisuperdoopertrooperkhaan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Somewhere in this subforum, Beefy made a similar thread that had 2006-2009.
    Seen it. Beefy wasn't keeping the details that I am though, but I will use it to get hindsight about the games if the game thread is not enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Be mindful of that some players have changed names over the years.
    I was Sigurd Fafnesbane the first years on this forum and Yaseikhaan has changed names many times over.
    Yes I've found some players who changed their names over time, some easier to spot than others.

    Csargo - Ichigo
    Sigurd - Sigurd Fafnesbane
    Thermal Mercury - 777ares777
    Tiberius of the Drake - Stephen Assen
    Yaseikhaan - Shinseikhaan - kamikhaan(?)

    Their results will be all under their last nickname. Let me know if you know of others.

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    Csargo was called Strawberry before he was Ichigo, iirc.
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    Csargo was never Strawberry. He went Russiancsar - Csar - Ichigo - Csargo.

    Also, Tiberius of the Drake was never Stephen Asen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    They are serial killers really

    I suppose they are often called mafia. And serial killers aren't third party unless there is a mafia group. So that makes them...eh.
    What if it's a mini game where there is a recruitable townie for the mafioso? I think that was how the musician mafia was (but the mafia nightkilled the extra).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Csargo was never Strawberry. He went Russiancsar - Csar - Ichigo - Csargo.

    Also, Tiberius of the Drake was never Stephen Asen.
    You're right, Stephen Asen is now Prince Cobra. Corrected. Thanks GH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    Yaseikhaan - Shinseikhaan - kamikhaan(?)
    Yaseikhaan is pretty much every name ending in "khaan". Notably, however, he's not KukriKhan.

    The names I've seen so far are:

    Makaikhaan
    Sereikhaan
    Shinseikhaan
    Yaseikhaan

    And before I arrived, I believe he was also greaterkhaan and Kamikhaan.

    And Thermal Mercury is Aries777777 in addition to 777ares777.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotix View Post
    (and peverbrown for about a day), but that's hardly a change.
    Ahh, good times.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
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    Updated with all the completed mafia games in this forum (emphasis on mafia games because I have skipped games that are too different from a normal Mafia game).

    Any suggestion how to improve, or any comment will be appreciated.

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    Wow, amazing work romanic.

    Most often Mafia
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    22 Yaseikhaan
    19 Sasaki Kojiro
    16 atheotes
    15 Beefy187
    khaan...of course, me...of course, atheotes...always mafia, ... Beefy!??? Who knew.

    Most wins as Mafia
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    13 Yaseikhaan
    11 Askthepizzaguy
    A clear reason to lynch these two early.

    Winning % as Mafia
    * 5 games or more.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    0.846 Askthepizzaguy (11 wins in 13 games)


    of Games as Town
    * 10 games or more.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    1.000 Peasant Phil (15 in 15 games)
    1.000 UltraWar (15 in 15 games)


    Most often survived to the end
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    25 Csargo
    25 Sasaki Kojiro
    24 Askthepizzaguy
    24 Caius
    23 Beefy187
    21 Yaseikhaan
    Before the "mafia kill sasaki" trend started...

    Most players in a game
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    79 Capo de Tutti Capi - II (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    76 Capo di Tutti Capi III (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    64 Swords in the Moon (Andres)
    57 Capo de Tutti Capi (Seamus Fermanaugh)

    Most posts in a game
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    4,189 Capo de Tutti Capi - II (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    3,791 Capo di Tutti Capi III (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    Of course

    Although I thought it was going to be "most player posts" and was prepared for a string of "askthepizzaguy".

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    I dispute many of my numbers, but I'm glad to see I've apparently played the most games, despite not really playing a small game for ages and taking a few breaks from the gameroom (or even the org)

    Mafia 10 times? I don't think so. I can remember 3 large games (Netherworld, Capo 1 and Old Persons), I've had a few neutral roles and maybe one doctor role, but even in small games only 2-3 times.

    I'm sure I've not survived that many times. I get lynched too much for that.

    You have fight for inishmore as a neutral victory, it wasn't, it was a town victory

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2200166

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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    The org will be org until everyone calls it a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    but I joke. Some of my best friends are Vietnamese villages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    Although I thought it was going to be "most player posts" and was prepared for a string of "askthepizzaguy".
    Though to be fair, the earlier ones were all you and Ichigo. I was struggling to stay in the top 5 at that point.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    The org will be org until everyone calls it a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    but I joke. Some of my best friends are Vietnamese villages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    I dispute many of my numbers, but I'm glad to see I've apparently played the most games, despite not really playing a small game for ages and taking a few breaks from the gameroom (or even the org)

    Mafia 10 times? I don't think so. I can remember 3 large games (Netherworld, Capo 1 and Old Persons), I've had a few neutral roles and maybe one doctor role, but even in small games only 2-3 times.

    I'm sure I've not survived that many times. I get lynched too much for that.
    Here's a list of your games, have a look.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    2010-07-28 (+) Lylat Wars - Neutral - Win
    2010-07-28 (+) Lylat Wars - Townie - Win
    2010-06-18 (+) Beefdom will rise once more - Townie - Loss
    2010-06-03 (+) Daggers in the Night - Townie - Loss
    2010-05-18 (+) Star Wars: Return of the Sith - Mafia - Loss
    2010-04-15 (+) The Shadow Fort - Townie - Loss
    2010-04-06 (+) Mafia IX: Triumph of the Mafia - Townie - Win
    2010-02-22 (+) Noblesse Oblige - Townie - WOG
    2010-02-10 (+) Netherworld II - Townie - Loss
    2009-11-12 (+) Omertà II: The Battle for Atlantic City - Townie - Win
    2009-11-10 (+) Kung Fu Mafia III - Townie - Loss
    2009-10-21 (+) Pirate Ship Mafia - Townie - Win
    2009-10-13 (+) Steampunk Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2009-10-08 (+) Capo di Tutti Capi III - Townie - Win
    2009-10-08 (+) Left 4 Dead Mini-Mafia!!! - Townie - Loss
    2009-08-06 (+) Speed Mafia: Vengeful - Townie - Loss
    2009-08-04 (+) Mafia Mongolica - Townie - Loss
    2009-07-27 (+) The Black Country - Townie - Loss
    2009-07-16 (+) SPEED MAFIA! - Townie - Win
    2009-07-07 (+) Ugg the Violent Caveman: A Pre-Historic Murder Mystery - Townie - Loss
    2009-07-01 (+) Futurama Dramarama Mafiarama! (Ramarama) - Townie - Win
    2009-06-18 (+) Resident Evil: Omega - Townie - Loss
    2009-06-16 (+) Minnesota Mafia: The Senate Scandal - Townie - Win
    2009-06-14 (+) Fillet Royale II: The Gang Wars - Townie - Loss
    2009-06-09 (+) Rubicon - Townie - Win
    2009-05-26 (+) Omertà: A small Mafia - Townie - Draw
    2009-05-20 (+) Mini Mafia IV - Townie - Win
    2009-05-18 (+) The Council of Villains- Large Mafia Game - Townie - Win
    2009-05-12 (+) Swords in the Moon - Townie - Loss
    2009-05-04 (+) Large Simpsons Mafia Game - Mafia - Loss
    2009-04-07 (+) The Settlement - Townie - Win
    2009-03-15 (+) Capo de Tutti Capi - II - Neutral - Loss
    2008-12-06 (+) The Prometheus - Townie - Loss
    2008-11-28 (+) Where? - Mini mafia - Townie - Win
    2008-10-27 (+) Resident Evil - Silent Night - Townie - Win
    2008-10-15 (+) Futurama Drama Mafiama - Townie - Loss
    2008-10-15 (+) Kung Fu Mafia II - Townie - Loss
    2008-08-26 (+) The Midgard Saga II - Townie - WOG
    2008-08-07 (+) The Brothel - Townie - Loss
    2008-07-29 (+) Soviet Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2008-07-22 (+) Giraffe Conspiracy - Townie - Win
    2008-07-07 (+) Doctor Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2008-06-28 (+) Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia - Townie - Win
    2008-06-19 (+) The Drunk Lawyers - Townie - Win
    2008-05-25 (+) The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - Neutral - Loss
    2008-05-22 (+) Trapped in Taormina - Townie - Win
    2008-05-21 (+) The Evil Satanic Group of the Camel Killers - Unknown - Loss
    2008-05-15 (+) The Booze Up - Townie - Loss
    2008-05-07 (+) Pre School Mafia - Townie - Win
    2008-04-16 (+) The traitor - Townie - Win
    2008-04-07 (+) Netherworld Mafia - Mafia - WOG
    2008-03-08 (+) Las Vegas: A mafia game, with higher stakes… - Neutral - Loss
    2008-02-22 (+) Fimbulwinter - Neutral - Loss
    2008-01-26 (+) Beef steak mafia - Neutral - Loss
    2007-12-17 (+) The Brotherhood - Part II - Townie - Loss
    2007-12-02 (+) Nameless small mafia - Townie - Win
    2007-11-13 (+) Pub Crawl Massacre - Townie - Loss
    2007-11-12 (+) Heretical Revenge - Mafia - Loss
    2007-11-05 (+) The Castle - Townie - Loss
    2007-10-31 (+) The Walking Lunch - original mini mafia - Townie - Loss
    2007-10-23 (+) Jester Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2007-10-20 (+) St. Thomas' Hospital - Townie - Loss
    2007-10-16 (+) Revolution Mafia - Townie - Win
    2007-10-10 (+) A Tale of Beer and Old People! - New Mafia - Mafia - Loss
    2007-10-07 (+) Mini-mafia #2141 - Townie - Loss
    2007-09-23 (+) Mafia VII: Shadows of the Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2007-09-14 (+) The Secret Formula - Townie - Win
    2007-09-11 (+) The Licensee - Townie - Loss
    2007-09-05 (+) Il Padrino - The New Mafia Big Game - Townie - Loss
    2007-08-31 (+) The Catiline Conspiracy: A Small Roman Game - Townie - Win
    2007-08-22 (+) The Brotherhood - Part One - The Theft of The Reliquary - Townie - Loss
    2007-07-30 (+) The Militia of Montana (M.O.M) - Mafia - Loss
    2007-07-30 (+) The Dirty Lawyers - Mafia - Loss
    2007-07-25 (+) Pitchforks and Flaming Brands - Mafia - Win
    2007-07-17 (+) The incredible evil plot of the evil beersalesmen - Townie - Loss
    2007-06-29 (+) The Attack of the MacSobers - Townie - Loss
    2007-06-16 (+) Omanes' Miniature Medieval Mini Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2007-06-11 (+) Kung Fu Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2007-05-19 (+) New Mini Mafia - Townie - Win
    2007-05-05 (+) Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova - Townie - Loss
    2007-04-03 (+) Stealth Danger - Townie - Win
    2007-04-01 (+) I'm back, and I'm looking for someone to kill - Townie - Loss
    2007-03-07 (+) Texas Mafia - Townie - Win
    2007-03-06 (+) Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia - Townie - WOG
    2007-03-04 (+) The Legend of Davenport - Townie - Win
    2007-02-23 (+) The 3 Sons of Algamar - Neutral - Loss
    2007-02-22 (+) The Midgard Saga - Townie - Loss
    2007-02-22 (+) the Argentum Mafia - Townie - Loss
    2007-02-20 (+) Mental Institution - Townie - Loss
    2007-02-08 (+) Mini-Mafia like Game - Townie - Loss
    2007-02-06 (+) Capo de Tutti Capi - Mafia - Loss
    2007-02-05 (+) ShallowCreek- A Mini-Mafia - Mafia - Win


    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    You have fight for inishmore as a neutral victory, it wasn't, it was a town victory

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2200166

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    Argh, I've used your fake ending for this game!

    It's fixed. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    Although I thought it was going to be "most player posts" and was prepared for a string of "askthepizzaguy".
    I could do it, keep the number of post per player, per game. Programming wise it would take me 5 mins, but it would require a lot of work to put the numbers in the database (going through each post count list for each game). Not sure I'm up for it, I've done enough data input in the last 2 days.

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    Oh well I still have the highest mafia percentage.

    I might just change my personal description to "Atheotes II"
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    Excellent statistics Romanic!!.
    It is exactly these kinds of initiatives that gives you stars in our books.

    I am happy to see my name in most of the Best of all time lists.
    In particular this:
    Most wins as Mafia
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    13 Yaseikhaan
    11 Askthepizzaguy
    11 Sasaki Kojiro
    8 Sigurd
    7 Beefy187
    6 GeneralHankerchief
    6 atheotes
    5 Kagemusha
    5 Tratorix
    5 taka
    5 Csargo
    5 Omanes Alexandrapolites
    5 Beskar
    4 Crazed Rabbit
    4 CountArach
    4 Andres
    4 shlin28
    4 Quintus JC
    4 Reenk Roink
    4 Sarathos
    Can't do anything with 'khaan, ATPG and Sasaki, but I beat Kage and the General - which just made my day.
    Are the games numbered sequentially? Is it possible to do streak stats? like 4 wins as Mafia in a row?

    Also - seeing some of the newer names in between the veterans - tells me that the older guys don't play enough Mafia games.
    We are making some plans to remedy this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    We are making some plans to remedy this.
    This, along with the thread (thanks Romanic ) makes me happy.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
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    2009-08-04 (+) Mafia Mongolica - Townie - Loss

    Town won the Mafia Mongolica, therefore if pevergreen was town, he won the game. There were no special townie roles in that one.

    Yes, I have no life and have been reading about the games pevergreen was in.

    (I just boosted your official win percentage, pever the green!)
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    Never knew a lot of the stats about my self.
    Winning percentage can improve, but I'm very delighted to see my self in top 5 of numbers of games played.
    Now if the quality of playing can improve...

    Thank you so much Romanic! If you could update this every now and then, that will be really awesome!


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    Hmmm.... some comments.

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    68 games (36 wins, 28 losses, 4 draws, 0 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 24 times
    Mafia: 13 games (11 wins, 2 losses, 0 draw, 0 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 9 times
    Neutral: 6 games (3 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw, 0 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 3 times
    Townie: 49 games (22 wins, 24 losses, 3 draws, 0 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 12 times


    Better than 1 in 3 survival out of 68 games? I did not realize that. I usually play risky gambits and often vote for myself.

    The Neutral thing didn't surprise me. I've been neutral a lot.... only trailing Generalhankerchief and pevergreen in terms of total number of times I've been neutral. I love being neutral, and as one of the few players with a lot of neutral games under my belt, I can make this comment: The mafia are almost always willing to work with neutrals.... other mafia... serial killers.... cults even. The mafia are far less rigid and ideological about forming alliances.

    Townies on the other hand, are the true fundamentalists. They don't want to work with cults. They don't want to work with serial killers. They don't want to work with neutrals. They don't want to work with annoying townies. They don't want to work with lurker townies. Townies are the most difficult, demanding, and overbearing allies to work with, and I should know, I've been neutral more times than this particular statistics thread reflects, due to CFC and TWC and currently active games.

    I almost always side with the town to destroy mafia; the one time I did not I was recruited as mafia and won as mafia. And even so, it's like pulling teeth to get townies to trust you. I've seen how mafia reacts toward neutrals, other mafia, and if anything they are too trusting, in my experience. Had I this experience way back when, I might not have tried to side with the town as much as I have, it would have spared me a lot of headaches. But, I wouldn't trade away my Capo III experience for anything. I am not sure what my policy will be in the future; I have tried to reach out to and work with the mafia on occasion, to make myself less predictable, and I've found some mixed reactions. Almost any time I attempt to side with town, it is a nightmare, even in the very successful cases, because you end up having to prove yourself to be super-townie, not just regular townie, in order to avoid being lynched. You have to personally reveal and lynch more scum than most townies dream of, in order to get a pass as neutral, in my experience... in the process making yourself the mafia's enemy number one, which doesn't do wonders for your survival. I actually think my successes as neutral are statistical anomalies, because the way I've played as neutral shouldn't normally translate to as many survivals, victories, and draws. I think you'd do better siding with mafia, actually.

    If the mafia lose, you can still win with town. But, I regularly take stupid pills, and I really enjoy siding with town, in spite of the constant headache. I think I may be a masochist.







    Best % of wins
    * 10 games or more.
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    0.667 AggonyDuck (10 wins in 15 games)
    0.600 UltraWar (9 wins in 15 games)
    0.600 gibsonsg91921 (9 wins in 15 games)
    0.600 Pannonian (6 wins in 10 games)
    0.586 taka (17 wins in 29 games)
    0.580 Khazaar (14 wins, 1 draw in 25 games)
    0.571 Joooray (11 wins, 2 draws in 21 games)
    0.559 Askthepizzaguy (36 wins, 4 draws in 68 games)


    I win and draw more often when I am neutral, I win the majority of games as mafia, and if you count the drawn games, my townie record is more positive than negative. What's odd though is I always thought of myself as a better townie than anything else... but not according to the data, especially this year. I consider myself more of a townie-oriented player (note my neutral record) but it seems that being townie is the thing that I am worst at....









    Most games played
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    92 pevergreen
    89 Csargo
    85 Beefy187
    85 Yaseikhaan
    78 Caius
    77 shlin28
    77 Sasaki Kojiro
    74 Andres
    68 Askthepizzaguy


    What's scary is I started playing mafia much later than all these honored veterans. What am I doing this high on the list?







    Most wins
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    39 Sasaki Kojiro
    38 Csargo
    37 Beefy187
    36 Yaseikhaan
    36 Askthepizzaguy


    Heh.... if you try over and over and over again, eventually you succeed. Spamming "in" for almost every game that shows up is the only way you can do this in a couple years. I should also be ranked pretty high on any hypothetical "Most losses" list. That's the downside.







    Most often Mafia
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    22 Yaseikhaan
    19 Sasaki Kojiro
    16 atheotes
    15 Beefy187
    14 Andres
    14 Csargo
    14 shlin28
    13 Askthepizzaguy


    Really only because I spam "in" for almost any game that comes up. Actual percentage-wise, I am very rarely mafia... people seem to think I'm always mafia for some reason, while others like Beefy are clearly much more scum-affiliated than I am. They just don't act scummy, that's why people don't notice. Look at Csargo and shlin, you don't really think "scumbag" when you think of their names. They've always got a halo of townie innocence around them that is unwarranted!



    Especially you, Beefy! How dare you be mafia so often when you're always so polite, funny, and loveable? You break my heart....

    Sasaki though. OMG I can still smell his guilt from here. He's got blood on his hands that can never, ever be washed away, and everyone knows it. But, he's always entertaining as mafia, and will usually be creative and believable with his lies. It gets awe-inspiring to watch.

    Khaan is awesome; he's got that perfect blend of quiet lurking without looking completely like a lurker. When he does talk, he's usually taken pretty seriously too. He's sitting on a giant pile of bodies, possibly the largest of all, and no one seems to notice it or care. But when you're that good.... you can walk up to the mayor of the city during a stump speech, shoot him in the face, then turn to the throngs of cameras and reporters and say "It was the diabeetus what killed 'im! I swears!" and they will believe you.

    Khaan is silent but deadly.... like a fart, but with much less stinky, way more dead bodies, and far more awesome.







    % of Games as Mafia
    * 10 games or more.
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    0.438 Diamondeye (7 in 16 games)
    0.364 scottishranger (4 in 11 games)
    0.333 boudica (4 in 12 games)
    0.313 Tran (5 in 16 games)
    0.286 Chaotix (12 in 42 games)
    0.278 Death is yonder (10 in 36 games)
    0.273 Kagemusha (9 in 33 games)
    0.273 Killfr3nzy (3 in 11 games)
    0.259 Yaseikhaan (22 in 85 games)
    0.250 ByzantineKnight (3 in 12 games)
    0.250 sapi (5 in 20 games)
    0.247 Sasaki Kojiro (19 in 77 games)
    0.240 Sigurd (12 in 50 games)
    0.239 atheotes (16 in 67 games)
    0.238 Reenk Roink (10 in 42 games)
    0.231 glyphz (3 in 13 games)
    0.227 Subotan (5 in 22 games)
    0.222 Centurion1 (8 in 36 games)
    0.222 Iskander 3.1 (4 in 18 games)
    0.220 Beskar (11 in 50 games)


    Funny, I don't see Askthepizzaguy on this list.

    Reports of my scumminess have been greatly exaggerated.







    Most wins as Mafia
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    13 Yaseikhaan
    11 Askthepizzaguy
    11 Sasaki Kojiro


    "A clear reason to lynch these two three early." -Sasaki Kojiro

    Corrected, oh scummiest of scums.

    Did you forget that you were also a member of the legion of doom?






    Winning % as Mafia
    * 5 games or more.
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    0.846 Askthepizzaguy (11 wins in 13 games)


    I believe I am undefeated as mafia down at TWC, with 4 or 5 games over there, and have a nearly 50/50 record at CFC, with maybe another 4 or 5 games. My record there is so poor because they play NOTW, and in such games, there's usually a prophet or a scanner, and I am usually scanned immediately, not unlike some org games. The only difference being I was actually guilty over there, and my guilty hide was lynched and lynched quickly.

    I hate detectives. I really, really hate detectives. They, and a couple strange host rulings, are the only reasons I've ever lost any games as mafia.

    Did I mention I HATE detectives? Especially because they almost always scan me right away.

    Pizza no like. Bad medicine.







    Most often Town
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    74 pevergreen
    69 Caius
    68 Csargo
    65 Beefy187
    59 shlin28
    56 Yaseikhaan
    55 Andres
    54 Sasaki Kojiro
    49 Askthepizzaguy


    That's right, buddy. Townie, townie, townie, townie, townie Pizzaguy. Remember that..... re-mem-ber..... re-mem-ber....







    Most often survived to the end
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    25 Csargo
    25 Sasaki Kojiro
    24 Askthepizzaguy
    24 Caius


    This is only because I almost never die when I am mafia. Nearly half of my survivals were as mafia, not as town. The rest were because we nailed all the scums before people got too nervous about having me around.







    Best % of Survival
    * 10 games or more.
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    0.600 doc_bean (6 in 10 games)
    0.524 Joooray (11 in 21 games)
    0.467 Xiahou (7 in 15 games)
    0.455 Cowhead418 (5 in 11 games)
    0.444 Methos (8 in 18 games)
    0.417 ByzantineKnight (5 in 12 games)
    0.400 gibsonsg91921 (6 in 15 games)
    0.400 spL1tp3r50naL1ty (20 in 50 games)
    0.379 taka (11 in 29 games)
    0.371 Double A (13 in 35 games)
    0.364 scottishranger (4 in 11 games)
    0.361 Centurion1 (13 in 36 games)
    0.360 Stig (9 in 25 games)
    0.353 Askthepizzaguy (24 in 68 games)


    Joooray doesn't surprise me. He's wearing the Stone Mask from the Legend of Zelda. Nobody notices him until it is far, far too late.

    Split is too loveable to die.

    As for myself, I think it's baffling I'm even on this list. I'm the dude that never shuts up, aggressively attacks mafia, suicide votes himself, and plays risky gambits. How that translates to better than average survival is beyond me.







    Most games hosted
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    20 Andres
    19 Askthepizzaguy


    I have to admit, as much as I love being town, and as much as I love being neutral more, and as much as I love being mafia even more, I love hosting games the most. Even more than I love playing them. I get to experience the awesomeness of mafia games without being everyone's adversary. It's truly an honor, and has provided me with friends that I'd never trade away for anything, and brightened my existence for almost 3 years now. Nothing is more rewarding than hosting games.

    That's why I am surprised the mafia hosting queue has gotten so short for small games and large games here at the .org.

    Where are you, mafia lovers? I'm about to host another large and small game before the year is up, merely because of less people hosting.


    Most players in a game
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    79 Capo de Tutti Capi - II (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    76 Capo di Tutti Capi III (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    64 Swords in the Moon (Andres)
    57 Capo de Tutti Capi (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    51 Pirate Ship Mafia (GeneralHankerchief)
    44 Lylat Wars (Askthepizzaguy)
    43 The Riftwar (pevergreen)
    42 The Shadow Fort (Crazed Rabbit)
    40 Large Simpsons Mafia Game (Askthepizzaguy)


    It's an honor having so many interested parties, and being on a list with names like these on it. I hope I can assemble a very large group of players for the Big New Yorker.


    Most posts in a game
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    4,189 Capo de Tutti Capi - II (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    3,791 Capo di Tutti Capi III (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    3,523 Star Wars: Return of the Sith (Sigurd)
    3,468 The Shadow Fort (Crazed Rabbit)
    2,671 Capo de Tutti Capi (Seamus Fermanaugh)
    2,557 Pirate Ship Mafia (GeneralHankerchief)
    2,263 Swords in the Moon (Andres)
    2,223 The Godfather, Part 3 (GeneralHankerchief)
    2,044 The Settlement (Reenk Roink)
    2,029 The Council of Villains- Large Mafia Game (Chaotix)
    1,987 Lylat Wars (Askthepizzaguy)


    I must admit, I loved Lylat Wars. I didn't think it would become my most popular game... it was basically a throw-away idea when I decided I didn't want to do the Dark Knight as it was. I think the story, the characters, the writeups, and most importantly, the player participation helped immensely.

    I haven't much cared for some of my other larger games, to be honest. I am still trying to perfect the art of the large game, which Seamus, Sigurd, Crazed rabbit, GeneralHankerchief, Reenk Roink, Andres, and Chaotix (among many others) clearly outshine me. My best games have always been the smaller ones. It's an honor being mentioned on a list with these incredible games. Most of those I enjoyed playing more than I enjoy hosting my own games, and considering how much I love to host, that's saying a lot. Lylat wars is the closest I've come to imitating the greatness of those other games. I hope to do better in my upcoming games.



    Thanks to any and all for reading through my once again wordy comments, or tolerating their presence. And many thanks to the great hosts and players I've come to know, respect, admire, and love. (Kisses Diana) Let's make 2011 another great year for town, mafia, and neutral alike.
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    Default Re: Gameroom statistics (revisited)

    That's right, buddy. Townie, townie, townie, townie, townie Pizzaguy.
    But me more so. Never lynch me.

    You have participated in so many games compared to us at the top due to the fact that those above you don't really play anything but large games anymore.

    You don't get lynched because you're pizza, its the newer players (again, my definition of new is in no way time or skill based, its just a value i attribute to each player depending on how much I remember of them) and they keep you alive because...well, they're sheep. A few stand out, but most are sheep. Its always been a problem.

    I whinge, but I don't vocalise and try to fix it in game, because its not how I play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    You don't get lynched because you're pizza
    When I die it's usually by the lynch, not murder. What are you talking about?

    A few stand out, but most are sheep. Its always been a problem.
    I haven't seen it demonstrated anywhere that "newer" players don't vote for me as often as less new players. I think it's fairly even, especially considering some of the last several games I've been lynched in.
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