Gameroom statistics [revisited]

**Askthepizzaguy** · 09-03-2010, 14:06

Hmmm.... some comments.

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Better than 1 in 3 survival out of 68 games? I did not realize that.

I usually play risky gambits and often vote for myself.

The Neutral thing didn't surprise me. I've been neutral a lot.... only trailing Generalhankerchief and pevergreen in terms of total number of times I've been neutral. I love being neutral, and as one of the few players with a lot of neutral games under my belt, I can make this comment: The mafia are almost always willing to work with neutrals.... other mafia... serial killers.... cults even. The mafia are far less rigid and ideological about forming alliances.

Townies on the other hand, are the true fundamentalists. They don't want to work with cults. They don't want to work with serial killers. They don't want to work with neutrals. They don't want to work with annoying townies. They don't want to work with lurker townies. Townies are the most difficult, demanding, and overbearing allies to work with, and I should know, I've been neutral more times than this particular statistics thread reflects, due to CFC and TWC and currently active games.

I almost always side with the town to destroy mafia; the one time I did not I was recruited as mafia and won as mafia. And even so, it's like pulling teeth to get townies to trust you. I've seen how mafia reacts toward neutrals, other mafia, and if anything they are too trusting, in my experience. Had I this experience way back when, I might not have tried to side with the town as much as I have, it would have spared me a lot of headaches. But, I wouldn't trade away my Capo III experience for anything. I am not sure what my policy will be in the future; I have tried to reach out to and work with the mafia on occasion, to make myself less predictable, and I've found some mixed reactions. Almost any time I attempt to side with town, it is a nightmare, even in the very successful cases, because you end up having to prove yourself to be super-townie, not just regular townie, in order to avoid being lynched. You have to personally reveal and lynch more scum than most townies dream of, in order to get a pass as neutral, in my experience... in the process making yourself the mafia's enemy number one, which doesn't do wonders for your survival. I actually think my successes as neutral are statistical anomalies, because the way I've played as neutral shouldn't normally translate to as many survivals, victories, and draws. I think you'd do better siding with mafia, actually.

If the mafia lose, you can still win with town. But, I regularly take stupid pills, and I really enjoy siding with town, in spite of the constant headache. I think I may be a masochist.

Best % of wins
* 10 games or more.
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I win and draw more often when I am neutral, I win the majority of games as mafia, and if you count the drawn games, my townie record is more positive than negative. What's odd though is I always thought of myself as a better townie than anything else... but not according to the data, especially this year. I consider myself more of a townie-oriented player (note my neutral record) but it seems that being townie is the thing that I am worst at....

Most games played
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What's scary is I started playing mafia much later than all these honored veterans. What am I doing this high on the list?

Most wins
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Heh.... if you try over and over and over again, eventually you succeed. Spamming "in" for almost every game that shows up is the only way you can do this in a couple years. I should also be ranked pretty high on any hypothetical "Most losses" list. That's the downside.

Most often Mafia
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Really only because I spam "in" for almost any game that comes up. Actual percentage-wise, I am very rarely mafia... people seem to think I'm always mafia for some reason, while others like Beefy are clearly much more scum-affiliated than I am. They just don't act scummy, that's why people don't notice. Look at Csargo and shlin, you don't really think "scumbag" when you think of their names. They've always got a halo of townie innocence around them that is unwarranted!

Especially you, Beefy! How dare you be mafia so often when you're always so polite, funny, and loveable? You break my heart....

Sasaki though. OMG I can still smell his guilt from here. He's got blood on his hands that can never, ever be washed away, and everyone knows it. But, he's always entertaining as mafia, and will usually be creative and believable with his lies. It gets awe-inspiring to watch.

Khaan is awesome; he's got that perfect blend of quiet lurking without looking completely like a lurker. When he does talk, he's usually taken pretty seriously too. He's sitting on a giant pile of bodies, possibly the largest of all, and no one seems to notice it or care. But when you're that good.... you can walk up to the mayor of the city during a stump speech, shoot him in the face, then turn to the throngs of cameras and reporters and say "It was the diabeetus what killed 'im! I swears!" and they will believe you.

Khaan is silent but deadly.... like a fart, but with much less stinky, way more dead bodies, and far more awesome.

% of Games as Mafia
* 10 games or more.

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Funny, I don't see Askthepizzaguy on this list.

Reports of my scumminess have been greatly exaggerated.

Most wins as Mafia
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"A clear reason to lynch these ~~two~~ three early." -Sasaki Kojiro

Corrected, oh scummiest of scums.

Did you forget that you were also a member of the legion of doom?

Winning % as Mafia
* 5 games or more.
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I believe I am undefeated as mafia down at TWC, with 4 or 5 games over there, and have a nearly 50/50 record at CFC, with maybe another 4 or 5 games. My record there is so poor because they play NOTW, and in such games, there's usually a prophet or a scanner, and I am usually scanned immediately, not unlike some org games. The only difference being I was actually guilty over there, and my guilty hide was lynched and lynched quickly.

I hate detectives. I really, really hate detectives. They, and a couple strange host rulings, are the only reasons I've ever lost any games as mafia.

Did I mention I HATE detectives? Especially because they almost always scan me right away.

Pizza no like. Bad medicine.

Most often Town
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That's right, buddy. Townie, townie, townie, townie, townie Pizzaguy. Remember that..... re-mem-ber..... re-mem-ber....

Most often survived to the end
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This is only because I almost never die when I am mafia. Nearly half of my survivals were as mafia, not as town. The rest were because we nailed all the scums before people got too nervous about having me around.

Best % of Survival
* 10 games or more.
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Joooray doesn't surprise me. He's wearing the Stone Mask from the Legend of Zelda. Nobody notices him until it is far, far too late.

Split is too loveable to die.

As for myself, I think it's baffling I'm even on this list. I'm the dude that never shuts up, aggressively attacks mafia, suicide votes himself, and plays risky gambits. How that translates to better than average survival is beyond me.

Most games hosted
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I have to admit, as much as I love being town, and as much as I love being neutral more, and as much as I love being mafia even more, I love hosting games the most. Even more than I love playing them. I get to experience the awesomeness of mafia games without being everyone's adversary. It's truly an honor, and has provided me with friends that I'd never trade away for anything, and brightened my existence for almost 3 years now. Nothing is more rewarding than hosting games.

That's why I am surprised the mafia hosting queue has gotten so short for small games and large games here at the .org.

Where are you, mafia lovers? I'm about to host another large and small game before the year is up, merely because of less people hosting.

Most players in a game
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It's an honor having so many interested parties, and being on a list with names like these on it. I hope I can assemble a very large group of players for the Big New Yorker.

Most posts in a game

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I must admit, I loved Lylat Wars. I didn't think it would become my most popular game... it was basically a throw-away idea when I decided I didn't want to do the Dark Knight as it was. I think the story, the characters, the writeups, and most importantly, the player participation helped immensely.

I haven't much cared for some of my other larger games, to be honest. I am still trying to perfect the art of the large game, which Seamus, Sigurd, Crazed rabbit, GeneralHankerchief, Reenk Roink, Andres, and Chaotix (among many others) clearly outshine me. My best games have always been the smaller ones. It's an honor being mentioned on a list with these incredible games. Most of those I enjoyed playing more than I enjoy hosting my own games, and considering how much I love to host, that's saying a lot. Lylat wars is the closest I've come to imitating the greatness of those other games. I hope to do better in my upcoming games.

Thanks to any and all for reading through my once again wordy comments, or tolerating their presence. And many thanks to the great hosts and players I've come to know, respect, admire, and love. (Kisses Diana) Let's make 2011 another great year for town, mafia, and neutral alike.

**pevergreen** · 09-03-2010, 16:02

That's right, buddy. Townie, townie, townie, townie, townie Pizzaguy.

But me more so. Never lynch me.

You have participated in so many games compared to us at the top

due to the fact that those above you don't really play anything but large games anymore.

You don't get lynched because you're pizza, its the newer players (again, my definition of new is in no way time or skill based, its just a value i attribute to each player depending on how much I remember of them) and they keep you alive because...well, they're sheep. A few stand out, but most are sheep. Its always been a problem.

I whinge, but I don't vocalise and try to fix it in game, because its not how I play.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 09-03-2010, 16:10

Originally Posted by pevergreen

You don't get lynched because you're pizza

When I die it's usually by the lynch, not murder. What are you talking about?

A few stand out, but most are sheep. Its always been a problem.

I haven't seen it demonstrated anywhere that "newer" players don't vote for me as often as less new players. I think it's fairly even, especially considering some of the last several games I've been lynched in.

**pevergreen** · 09-03-2010, 16:48

Were they large games? I don't follow others.

**autolycus** · 09-03-2010, 18:11

Soon, soon I will join the ranks of those with the highest percentage of being townie. Muahahahaha!

**Beefy187** · 09-04-2010, 07:55

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Most often Mafia
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Really only because I spam "in" for almost any game that comes up. Actual percentage-wise, I am very rarely mafia... people seem to think I'm always mafia for some reason, while others like Beefy are clearly much more scum-affiliated than I am. They just don't act scummy, that's why people don't notice. Look at Csargo and shlin, you don't really think "scumbag" when you think of their names. They've always got a halo of townie innocence around them that is unwarranted!

Especially you, Beefy! How dare you be mafia so often when you're always so polite, funny, and loveable? You break my heart....

If you look at percentages, I'm not mafia that often. Its just the numbers of games I played.. Just slightly more likely then pever

**Joooray** · 09-04-2010, 16:19

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

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Joooray doesn't surprise me. He's wearing the Stone Mask from the Legend of Zelda. Nobody notices him until it is far, far too late.

But again, I don't lurk on purpose, I'm just not very vocal. And I'm rather rarely mafia and as such not actually a threat.

Also, it's kinda sad nobody notices me.

Could be that the good times are over though, being killed in the first night of Inavi and all.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 09-04-2010, 16:49

Originally Posted by Joooray

But again, I don't lurk on purpose, I'm just not very vocal. And I'm rather rarely mafia and as such not actually a threat.

Also, it's kinda sad nobody notices me.

I am drooling with envy, because you are not at all ignored when you do post. I wish I had your kind of stealth.

**seireikhaan** · 09-05-2010, 20:16

Wonder what my % of survival is... pretty sure its like .08%. Haven't realized just how many times I've been mafia, but I guess I've been playing a decent while now.

Excellent work, Romanic.

**Romanic** · 09-06-2010, 01:01

Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan

Wonder what my % of survival is... pretty sure its like .08%. Haven't realized just how many times I've been mafia, but I guess I've been playing a decent while now.

Excellent work, Romanic.

Thanks khaan

Yaseikhaan
86 games (36 wins, 45 losses, 2 draws, 2 WOGs, 1 replaced) - Survived 21 times
Mafia: 23 games (13 wins, 8 losses, 1 draw, 1 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 7 times
Neutral: 6 games (1 win, 5 losses, 0 draw, 0 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 1 time
Townie: 56 games (21 wins, 32 losses, 1 draw, 1 WOG, 1 replaced) - Survived 13 times
Unknown: 1 game (1 win, 0 loss, 0 draw, 0 WOG, 0 replaced) - Survived 0 time

Your survival % is 0.244 (21/86). Right in the middle, overall average is currently .245.

**Double A** · 09-06-2010, 01:08

Which players post the most in threads?

*Seamus doesn't count as a player in the games he hosts*

**Romanic** · 09-06-2010, 01:17

Originally Posted by Double A

Which players post the most in threads?

*Seamus doesn't count as a player in the games he hosts*

I don't keep post count per game for each player (yet~maybe later). This list you are talking about is a list of the most post count by everyone in a game. Largest game thread really. Granted that the title can be misleading, but did you think someone could made 4,000 posts in a single game?