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**Togakure** · 08-31-2010, 08:39

Thanks for sharing your point of view, Monk. That's essentially the same basic response I got before, a perspective which I understand. It may be that the Senior Member title is seen as you describe by some, even many, but I think it is still perceived as "status symbol" by some--evident by the periodic inquiries in the Tower. Intent and reality don't always match.

But: it doesn't matter--I don't want to reopen the debate. As stated, I'm content and would prefer things remain as they are. I just felt it necessary to respond to Kas' inquiry as he mentioned me specifically. He remembers a time long before I changed my name here to Masamune, when I was much more passionate and involved.

**caravel** · 09-01-2010, 13:27

I don't see why HoF awards can't be removed on member request? If you really want it removed you should PM TosaInu (seems like a very respectable HoF award though and from my perspective doesn't carry an "elite" tag).

I can see both sides of the argument - why the SM honorific is bestowed and why it might appear "elitist" to some. The .org actually has a pretty simple ranking system in comparision to some other forums. If the SM promotions were done through public nominations and voting, then in reality it would just be a "popularity contest" which is not what Senior Membership is about.

**Togakure** · 09-02-2010, 02:51

Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa

I don't see why HoF awards can't be removed on member request? If you really want it removed you should PM TosaInu (seems like a very respectable HoF award though and from my perspective doesn't carry an "elite" tag).

I can see both sides of the argument - why the SM honorific is bestowed and why it might appear "elitist" to some. The .org actually has a pretty simple ranking system in comparision to some other forums. If the SM promotions were done through public nominations and voting, then in reality it would just be a "popularity contest" which is not what Senior Membership is about.

Heh, It was with TosaInu-sama that I had that exchange, and it was he who denied my request, based on my "expecting" attitude and "consequential" behavior at the time. I still have the PM exchanges, though this took place several years ago. I just retired the old account, started a new one, and got rid of the badge in the process. Since then, I've realized that I was being silly, and that it's not a big deal, nor was it ever, to anyone but me. I was acting on a matter of principle--to support my stance about elitist distinctions creating "classes" within the population here, etc..

I recently requested the merge back to the old account because no one returning for S2TW would recognize Masa, but they might remember Toga.

Tosa and I have put that behind us and get along fine now. Playing lots of MP together and chatting afterwards can work wonders in making new friends.

**Strike For The South** · 09-02-2010, 20:26

They are giving away SMs these days, hell pevergreens got one

**pevergreen** · 09-03-2010, 01:27

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

They are giving away SMs these days, hell pevergreens got one

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**rory_20_uk** · 09-03-2010, 15:43

Senior Member merely lets one post slightly faster. Oh, and keep a few more warnings in the inbox for posterity.

**Togakure** · 09-04-2010, 02:36

Just so those who have read this thread know: staff is not against removing an HoF award from an account as a matter of rule. If for some reason someone wants this done, contact an admin. In my case, it was my attitude and behavior at the time that caused hesitancy and initial refusal to grant the request. As in many cases and places, it's how you go about asking for a service that can make all the difference in whether you get what you ask for.