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    I think I'd like to see a return of the stat penalty to units crowded together. It's absence I think might be partially why RTW and M2TW did not play well.

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    i have no proof for this i would like to see such penalty too the more we talk about it the more we see how the core engine of mtw vi was very good
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    Hmm sounds way too soon to me, personally.

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    Ye its too soon for another full release but tbh napoleon totalwar hasent got enough life in it to last longer, especially in mp the map selection drives me nuts.


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    Guys this is something out of your discussion I want to ask, how can I add my saved game so eneryone can download it in a Thread and tell me your opinions??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoosh So View Post
    Ye its too soon for another full release but tbh napoleon totalwar hasent got enough life in it to last longer, especially in mp the map selection drives me nuts.
    You made a good point, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoosh So View Post
    Ye its too soon for another full release but tbh napoleon totalwar hasent got enough life in it to last longer, especially in mp the map selection drives me nuts.


    Bull. You ain't tired 'till you played on each map at least 10 times, including the sieges.

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    The only thing thats bull is the siege games, if i dident try a map 10 times its because it dident warrant playing it 10 times. ive played 446 games of ntw online ad believe me im tired of all the mp battle maps. I was actually tired of them a few hundred games ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempiic View Post
    I think I'd like to see a return of the stat penalty to units crowded together. It's absence I think might be partially why RTW and M2TW did not play well.
    This has me worried after playing the demo - blobing units just eating away even though they are sandwitched. In old TW they took a stat penatly melee and morale bunching up in balls.

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    yes Plz give us a stat penalty to units that bunch up and turn into pacman :(
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    Well, the playerbase (which isnt huge) changed completly. Today people consider you as good player, if you can charge with some cavs the enemy missles.
    Today we face people who come from NTW or ETW and some are from Rome. Many of us didnt like Rome and stopped, while there are many today, who love Rome.

    The current TW game is more or less some cavmovement and than it takes this route mostly:

    1. outshot - with the hardcore, high skillintensive cavcharges
    2. frontal attack, with some amazing general-movement

    The penalties are a nightmare, they are almost no existent. Flanking and rearing seems not to have any real effect, so the armies are clustered and you better hold the lines (thanks to NTW) than trying to flank or outmaneuver anything.

    The Demo is good enough to see the problems, steroid units circled completely or at least almost fully, fight and fight and fight....keeps fighting....still fighting....won!
    We need a much better penalty system, where flanking means something, where units rout quick, if outplayed badly.

    S2 is a NTW-clone, the only skirmish in NTW was done by cavs, unless you played otto. Its (well, its napoleon time with many guns, so its fine if you like this time-area).
    I doubt we will see much of a difference between this two games. S2 has less missle-activity and a bit higher h2h activity.

    A real problem are those rubber-band/bubble-gum units, which once in fight are hard to figure out, where on earth they are actual.
    You can easy test that in the demo, once units are in fight, they spread all over the place, you will find it pretty hard to figure out, where they really are and which direction they fight. If armies did clash you know of course, which direction most units will look too, but you hardly will see it, you also wont see, if they turned direction.

    Since units are mixed into each other, try to get a charge in there with a flank or rearmaneuver.
    The chance, that your unit get stuck into another unit and lose its charge is high.

    Everyone playing NTW will know and see the same problem, like you can see in the demo and tomorrow you will see it live!
    The general and the abilities, same as certain skills are much more important than any movement or smart maneuver.

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    Well maybe just for kicks and high hopes it would be a good idea to refresh the wishlist after shogun 2 comes out and keep updating it as time goes on to throw fully filled list of wishes at the next TW.

    You might be right about how STW2 plays out, but lets wait and see what playing styles form over time.

    Yes sadly units are still banded together like bubble gum and you gotta love those cavalry dances, but part of the problem is no one knows what you mean or just don't see it when you try to explain it to them. I'm happy I'm not the only one that sees it thanks kocmoc. :)

    And sadly it seems penalties for flanking and rear attacks aren't as strong and I think part of the problem is due to so many 1v1s that go on within combat, where soldiers become unkillable when doing long finishing moves.

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    TW mpers in an SP dominated TW world can easily appear like crazed prophets. Not a good feeling going upstream, indeed.
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    my new wish!

    - we need somehow a solution to get into the same Chatroom, even if we come from different countries.

    IF i think about a tourney, the current chat wont help at all, we need a way to get us in one room or at least see same rooms.

    Actual I sit in a german chat with all my friends playing on other "chatrooms", sigh! GHA GHA GHA twice-good-GHA!

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