Your favourite Clan from STW

[Kagemusha]

In order to warm up with memories of the old.Which was your favourite Clan from STW?For me its currently Oda, but that stems lot more from its central position and many fronts that will create, rather then me liking the the Historical Oda Clan.

[AggonyDuck]

Takeda. There was just something so impressive in seeing hundreds of cavalry breaking the enemy on charge.

[Thermal]

Oda. Like the central position, rich lands and trouble with the rebellion, on Senjoku Jidai, its a real challenge to keep your lands.

[A Nerd]

Uesugi. I enjoyed the wealthy starting position, and the tactic involved to defeat a wealthy Hojo and oportunistic Imagawa. Also always loved to fight in Dewa!

[caravel]

Imagawa or Takeda, I find the rest of the clans relatively easy even on expert. With Imagawa and Takeda, the challenge is in holding both parts of your territories and joining them up. Oda would be my second choice.

[Kagemusha]

Imagawa or Takeda, I find the rest of the clans relatively easy even on expert. With Imagawa and Takeda, the challenge is in holding both parts of your territories and joining them up. Oda would be my second choice.

I always wondered how CA decided to place Imagawa lands on Kyushu in the original. I think it was maybe one of the most ahistorical things in STW. I can understand the Takeda lands in Aki from a longshot as Takeda clan of Aki were the Shugo of Aki province at the start of the century, but got mauled by Mori in the end. They were related to Takeda of Kai, but werent essentially the "same" Clan. While CA introduced the Aki Takeda as part of Kai Takeda. I wonder why they didnt add the Takeda of Wakasa into Takeda faction as they were also related to Takeda of Kai. To make things even more complicated, there were also Takeda in Kazusa, which was related to Kai Takeda, but was not part of it. They fought Satomi and Hojo and were ultimately destroyed by Satomi.

[NagatsukaShumi]

Mine was always the Uesugi, I can't really remember too many of my games now though but they were always my favourite. Ironically think I only ever completed Shoggy with Hojo and Shimazu.

[Tera]

One great thing about the TW series (not just Shogun) is different factions vary in difficutly inherently. I played basically all factions in Shogun - I'd say the hardest are Imagawa (split lands with no special units, at least Takeda has cavalry early on) and Shimazu (extremely poor lands). Easiest are definitely Hojo and Uesugi - wealthy and sheltered.

My favourite is Imagawa, not just because it's hard, but also because one of the generals (or was he a heir?) is Tokugawa Ieyasu - the REAL shogun :)

[Beskar]

Oda is cheap. Compared to the other clans, he traded with the west, so he had guns.

On the otherhand, Date Masamune is some one not to be underestimated. I would definitely support him.


What is a shame though, it is hundreds of years till the Shinsengumi. They had pretty much the best uniforms.

[ShadesWolf]

Shimazu all the way

[Monk]

Shimazu.

A relatively secure starting position in Kyushu meant that, once you dealt with the Imagawa in the north, you had your back to the wall to begin your march east. The major downside is you're starting dirt poor and building up your home provinces takes a lot of time.

[edyzmedieval]

Takeda. On Expert, that was a REAL challenge. And trying to take Shinano early on was something, without Hojo attacking you from behind or Uesugi using all of its armies.

[Gregoshi]

I like Uesugi, but have a very soft spot for Mori who I played in my very first campaign. Sure they have warrior monks but Mori was piss poor - quite a challenge. Guess that's why I like Uesugi now - rollin' in the koku!

[Gregoshi]

Er, not to nit pick, but the poll voting bars are not colour coordinated with the clan colours.

[Kagemusha]

Er, not to nit pick, but the poll voting bars are not colour coordinated with the clan colours.

[Hosakawa Tito]

My favorite were the Mori and those Warrior Monks & No-dachi.

[kyushudan]

The Takeda. Of course to cav units are cheaper but I like the starting position. And it is very satisfying ejecting the Hōjō from the Kantō region.

[Kagemusha]

The Takeda. Of course to cav units are cheaper but I like the starting position. And it is very satisfying ejecting the Hōjō from the Kantō region.

Nice to see a new face of a STW player. Wellcome to the Org kyushudan!

[Swoosh So]

wolves

or the deadly shingens :p even tho only 2 of them :D

[andrewt]

Takeda. On Expert, that was a REAL challenge. And trying to take Shinano early on was something, without Hojo attacking you from behind or Uesugi using all of its armies.

I love that province. I remember it being connected to 9 other provinces.

[Tsar Alexsandr]

Imagawa lands in Kyushu were supposed to be due to a family relationship between the Ryzkoji (not sure on spelling) and the Imagawa clans. But... that's a different clan. XD Not Imagawa's. The Imagawa's were also related to the Hatekeyama and the Ashikaga I believe. But these clans were merely related, not working together. Maybe they just didn't want it to be too easy for Shimazu to take Kyushu.

[Tsar Alexsandr]

Also my favorite clan was Shimazu, cause I like swords, and the No-dachi bonus was a good incentive to play as them. XD

But the Takeda and Uesugi were favorites of mine as well. :D

[Kagemusha]

Imagawa lands in Kyushu were supposed to be due to a family relationship between the Ryzkoji (not sure on spelling) and the Imagawa clans. But... that's a different clan. XD Not Imagawa's. The Imagawa's were also related to the Hatekeyama and the Ashikaga I believe. But these clans were merely related, not working together. Maybe they just didn't want it to be too easy for Shimazu to take Kyushu.

So a similar case as the case with the Takeda of Kai and Takeda of Aki.Great post Tsar Aleksandr and wellcome to the Org and Dojo II!

[LittleGrizzly]

So a similar case as the case with the Takeda of Kai and Takeda of Aki.Great post Tsar Aleksandr and wellcome to the Org and Dojo II!

Shimazu!

great starting position (although crappy farmland) with some rebel terroritory, and Nods!


Although after I played multiplayer for a bit Oda was the only way you could really get a challenge, was a bit of a tightrope on expert even though i was infinitely better than the AI on the battlefield, so towards the end Oda was much more fun, though Shimazu will forever be my favourite....

[JAG]

Hojo all the way baby, because I was boring and just seemed to like them! :)

[Tsar Alexsandr]

You're welcome. :D Yeah I just ran into some information on the high ranked families of the day. Though not as powerful as some clans, some held high noble blood lines like Imagawa and his relation. Of course Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and even Ieyasu Tokugawa showed hom much that really counts for... XD

Thanks. :D Dojo II is new to me, but I am the returned former Czar Alexsandr. XD I have now changed my title to a more authentic Russian one lol.

Shogun 2 is going to be great. I spent so much time playing the original Shogun, so many fond memories! And now getting to re-visit it, new and improved hopefully, this is going to be fun! :D

[Wishazu]

Imagawa all the way. They always provided me with the greatest challenge, being poor and seperated with no advantage in battlefield units. Also, I like the colour :)

btw, if anyone is interested in revisiting STW, take a look at the campaigns posted in the Sword Dojo.

[Martok]

The Hojo are still my favorite. I know they're probably too easy (their income potential is possibly even better than Uesugi's), but I love their position (being virtually surrounded by Takeda, Imagawa, and Uesugi) and the fact they could build their castles for cheaper. Also, defending Musashi against the Takeda cavalry hordes is always great fun.

[General Malaise]

I picked the Shimazu, partially for the reasons others stated (good, secure position yet still economically challenging) but mostly because their unit bonus was no-dachi and they were my favorite unit to use, not only because the sword-wielding samurai is the classic image of japanese warfare (albeit somewhat inaccurate) but because I enjoyed using infantry rush tactics. No-dachi weren't so great though on their own, compared to sohei especially, but the cost/upkeep bonus and the provinces with superior honor in producing them the Shimazu had made them quite worthwhile. Also because of that you could safely convert to Christianity earlier to get the jump on guns, whose morale-lowering effects worked well with shock infantry, as you didn't really need sohei so much (which also made your no-dachi more effective against monks, no longer being buddhist).

[ReluctantSamurai]

Oda....especially the 1580 campaign on Expert setting. Two-front war....battles hanging by a thread......Takeda and Imagawa wanting your head on your northern front.....Shimazu and Mori on your southern........

Plus I love the sound of gunfire rolling up the valley as the smoke drifts away on the wind........