Other Historical Battles (Ideas, Etc.)

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 03-29-2007, 03:43

Didn't want to start a new one for just thinking about a battle, but I've been reading about Sellasia and thought it might be a good one. Here is a sketch of it:

http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~warfare/L...6_sellasia.jpg

222 BC, in Peloponnesos
Makedonia: Antigonos Doson (king)
28,000 soldiers - two wings, cavalry in middle, good reinforcements behind

Koinon Hellenon: Kleomenes (Spartan king)
20,000 soldiers - two wings, cavalry in middle, no reinforcements but holds better ground.

There is a river in the middle (not the way you think, but vertically down the map), but it might be able to be represented by a ditch - and before the KH lines there should also be a ditch too. The ones I saw on the Bibracte battle (back behind the gauls on the hillside) would be good - ridges of earth. They could probably work for a mostly dry river bed also. Having cavalry in the middle and a divided line on both sides is very interesting too. It would be hard to win as KH, but not so bad if you are Maks.

**Eduorius** · 03-29-2007, 04:51

Where you get that maps and stuff?

Can you find me one for Telamon? I wanted to do that, but give it out when didnt understand what Polybius was saying.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 03-29-2007, 05:06

I just google searched it. Plus I found an article on it on jstor.org through my university. There's a wikipedia entry for telamon. But no map.

**Eduorius** · 03-29-2007, 05:38

ok thanks =)

**Moros** · 03-29-2007, 08:21

As I have a few days free, maybe I'll try it TA.
How would you like the units?

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 03-29-2007, 22:03

I'll try to get that down a little later, but doing some other stuff right now. I've got it mapped out on paper, but am trying to figure out what sort of units would best represent the numbers and descriptions I've seen. The biggest problem would be that the 6000 spartans in 222 were probably phalangites by that time. Can't remember when the switch happened. We'll have KH phalangites on our next release, but we might could just use regular spartans for now.

The other thing I'm thinking about is since the line was split so clearly, I was feeling like the cavalry in the middle and the spartan phalanx and light troops in front of them, that they'd be the only units controlled by the KH player, and the wing on the other hill would be captain led (AI). Maybe same for maks too. The battle is clearly split in two like that.

**paullus** · 03-30-2007, 00:29

i'd say the right flanks of each might be the most fun. the Spartans on their hill is a great setup, and the blocks of medium and heavy infantry on the right would be a lot of fun.

**alatar** · 03-30-2007, 17:41

I like the historical battles, and would love to see some more done, unforuneally I don't know enough about a single battle to make it.

**Eduorius** · 03-30-2007, 18:35

Making an accurate location of this map with the hills, the river, the roads, and the fortifications can really be frustrating. I will admire who can do this very accurate. This is one of the hard landscapes like many ones in the Greek region.