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    'Scientists of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) are quite certain: by using fossil fuels man is currently destroying the climate and our future. We have one last chance, we are told: quickly renounce modern industrial society – painfully but for a good cause. '

    A religion that wants to go back in time, gee they never do that. And letting Greenpeace edit the final version lololol. Nice to see a serious scientist come clean about the IPCC calculation model I hope this doesn't destroy his carreer.

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    I wonder how many papers allowed a final edit by Greenpeace.

    Might as well let PETA do the final edit on the Michillen Guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    I wonder how many papers allowed a final edit by Greenpeace.

    Might as well let PETA do the final edit on the Michillen Guide.
    Indeed. One of the reasons I went from supporter to sceptic was when I twigged about buying carbon credits about eight years ago. When I sat and thought about it, it only made sense as a money raising exercise. As I'm somewhat familiar how governent (albeit local) functions I smelt a great big Rattus Norvegicus.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    I think we might be nearing a tipping point.

    The 92-year-old now says he is “not worried about sea-level rises”, which he believes will rise two foot a century “at worst”, and complains “the green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion”.

    He said wind farms were “ugly and useless”, instead supporting nuclear power and fracking, arguing Britain should be “going mad” on methane.

    Professor Lovelock is most famous for his Gaia theory, formulated in the 1960s to explain the Earth’s environment as a regulating organism to sustain life.

    The theory has been the foundation of many of the beliefs around climate change and energy production.

    In an interview with the Guardian, Prof Lovelock has now said he had become more of “a thinker” since retiring from practising science, and is now moving to a seaside home in Dorset.

    Speaking about environmentalists, he said: “It's just the way the humans are that if there's a cause of some sort, a religion starts forming around it.

    “It just so happens that the green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion. I don't think people have noticed that, but it's got all the sort of terms that religions use.

    “The greens use guilt. You can't win people round by saying they are guilty for putting CO2 in the air.”

    Is 'green religion' taking over from the Christian religion?

    Yes

    He also criticised politicians for the way they have handled energy issues.

    “I'm neither strongly left nor right, but I detest the Liberal Democrats,” he explained. "They are all well-meaning, but they have mostly had little experience of power.

    “The coalition has behaved disgracefully on environmental and energy policies. It would have been much better if they had been properly rightwing.

    “I don't mean something like Thatcher; that was a revolutionary Conservative government. Just a regular one. Our political system works because they tend to self-correct each other.”

    Earlier this year, he admitted he had made "mistake" in being so certain about some of his climate predictions, conceding he had been “extrapolating too far”.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...ge-expert.html
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I think we might be nearing a tipping point
    Doubt it, they will just continue on repeating, repeat repeat repeat, preferably on schools the younger the better. Sceptics cannot hope to have their budget for indoctrination, nor the networks to even give them acces to media.

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    Fritz Vahrenholt...hmm where did I see something about him, oh yeah!

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/frit...te-change.html

    Frankly if Vahrenholt can't even accurately read the 18-page SPM [ IPCC summary for policymakers ], it's exceptionally difficult to take him seriously. His subsequent comments in the interview reveal that he has been very selective about what scientific research he chooses to accept.
    And lots of other goodies there.

    James Lovelock has made numerous outrageous predictions before so why should we care about him? It's not like climatology is based on his research is it?

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...imate-science/

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    I have 47 mature trees on my property and plan on growing more. The way I see it, that gives me 47 carbon credits, 5 of which I have used:

    1. Dumping Freon
    2. Flushing my used motor oil down the toilet at the state fair
    3. Burning tires
    4. Shooting a bald eagle
    5. Dumping Freon

    I have 42 credits left until my newly planted trees mature to the point of my current ones, which I expect will take about 78 years, so I have to pace myself on the freon dumping etc.

    If everyone followed simple rules like mine and lived like I did, this old earth of ours would be a better place for my children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    Fritz Vahrenholt...hmm where did I see something about him, oh yeah!

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/frit...te-change.html



    And lots of other goodies there.

    James Lovelock has made numerous outrageous predictions before so why should we care about him? It's not like climatology is based on his research is it?

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...imate-science/
    Isn't about his predictions, it's about him understanding that the green movement is a religion REPENT or the apocalypse will cometh

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